2005 F-150. First car(truck)puter. - Page 2

Tical84 · 10-30-2009, 12:01 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by hexxamillion

That's one of the things I don't like about Windows. Why not just make the one product then have the consumers choose what they want to during installation process, like what is done on LINUX. Then there would be no confusion..it could be as bloated as you want or as lightweight.

Because then they'd have to charge the same (most likely, cheaper) price since there would only be one version. This way they can say "You don't want to pay a couple hundred dollars for an OS? Well, we have a cheaper version, it does nothing you want it to do, but we have it."

I ended up getting Ultimate. Any tips on how to de-bloat it? I saw there was a good thread on speeding up XP but nothing on 7 yet. Right now with a fresh install, no software installed (even RR) it boots in 55 seconds on an old 7200RPM HDD. Haven't been through msconfig or services yet.

rdholtz · 10-30-2009, 01:20 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Tical84

Any tips on how to de-bloat it? I saw there was a good thread on speeding up XP but nothing on 7 yet. Right now with a fresh install, no software installed (even RR) it boots in 55 seconds on an old 7200RPM HDD. Haven't been through msconfig or services yet.

We may have to wait until nLite is updated to cover Windows7. That may not be long -- that's a pretty good package, and the developers seem to pay attention.

hexxamillion · 10-30-2009, 03:15 PM

I am not much on the whole Windows thing as I am linux but nLite I know was used for XP. I came across vLite which was used for Vista and recognizes Windows 7 as Vista, supposedly compatible. There is also a forum. Google around there are all kinds of forums out there.

vLite
Windows 7 Lite Builds Forum

Tical84 · 10-30-2009, 03:27 PM

Ya, I poked around Google a bit and found that theoretically VLite works but I also noticed 7 has only a fraction of the programs and bloatware that Vista and SP2+ XP have so it may be alright. What are the boot times for your Windows 7 systems?

treetop777 · 10-30-2009, 05:40 PM

That's a nice volume control and you're right, that coin holder is about useless!

A questions about volumouse if i may, what "condition" did you set in the configuration to tell the mouse to act as a volume control instead of scrooling? I would hate to have to press a key on a key board first everytime i wanted to control the volume.

BTW - maybe to late now, but i would go with XP, everything you through at it work. Seeing as though you already decided on win7, i hope volumouse work with it since it hasn't been tested on win7.

Then again, you can be the guinea-pig for all of us

j/k

Good luck on the install. i also have a 2005 F-150 and will be watching.

Tical84 · 10-30-2009, 05:49 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by treetop777

That's a nice volume control and you're right, that coin holder is about useless!

A questions about volumouse if i may, what "condition" did you set in the configuration to tell the mouse to act as a volume control instead of scrooling? I would hate to have to press a key on a key board first everytime i wanted to control the volume.

BTW - maybe to late now, but i would go with XP, everything you through at it work. Seeing as though you already decided on win7, i hope volumouse work with it since it hasn't been tested on win7.

Then again, you can be the guinea-pig for all of us

j/k

You can set it up so that it works when a certian window is active, in my case, RR and no key is required. If you need help I can explain it better or even take a screenshot when I get home from work.

Quote:

Good luck on the install. i also have a 2005 F-150 and will be watching.

Thanks. It's starting to snow here already so it probably wont be installed until Spring but I'll keep updating as I collect parts and test software. That's actually one of the reasons I went with Windows 7. I have lots of time to test everything out and work out the bugs.

Do you have any glare problems with the LED Backlight in the 'Fiddy? I'm wondering if LED backlit is good enough, or even a normal LCD or if I should splurge and go for transflective.

treetop777 · 10-30-2009, 06:21 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Tical84

..I'm wondering if LED backlit is good enough, or even a normal LCD or if I should splurge and go for transflective.

It is more than adequate, in fact, it will blind you at night. I also matched the rear window tint to the front windows so it's pretty dark inside the truck. Your skin looks preety bright too so i don't forsee a problem with just getting an LED backlit.

Good info on volumouse - let me go play a little.

Tical84 · 10-30-2009, 06:24 PM

Ya, I feel like I'm going to need a night skin or a gamma control button/slider for sure.

Volumouse is really easy, you'll figure it out.

hexxamillion · 10-30-2009, 10:58 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by treetop777

That's a nice volume control and you're right, that coin holder is about useless!

A questions about volumouse if i may, what "condition" did you set in the configuration to tell the mouse to act as a volume control instead of scrooling? I would hate to have to press a key on a key board first everytime i wanted to control the volume.

BTW - maybe to late now, but i would go with XP, everything you through at it work. Seeing as though you already decided on win7, i hope volumouse work with it since it hasn't been tested on win7.

Then again, you can be the guinea-pig for all of us

j/k

Good luck on the install. i also have a 2005 F-150 and will be watching.

So far I have had no issues whatsoever relating to Win7 and drivers. I think he will be fine.

hexxamillion · 10-30-2009, 11:11 PM

Regarding bloat..I don't personally don't view Windows 7 as bloated much but you could do some tweaking with msconfig. In addition, it boots within reason for me. I have not clocked it. I would rather have full support as possible than a stripped down version such as the vLite...that's just a personal preference.

Tical84 · 10-31-2009, 12:21 AM

Volumouse works as great as before, I just need an active PS2/USB adapter because the only PS2 port on my mobo is for a keyboard. Could I plug the mouse in there? I haven't tested it yet.

I don't see the point in having my OS be able to do absolutely everything when I'm not going to use it to do absolutely everything. If this was a desktop PC for home, sure I'd leave it, go get a drink of water while it boots for 2 minutes, but in a carPC application I want it playing my tunes or guiding me around a new town before I leave the driveway. 55 seconds isn't unreasonable, but I know it can be better. Surprisingly msconfig was empty and there were only 39 services. Much improved over XP and especially Vista.

hexxamillion · 10-31-2009, 01:47 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Tical84

Volumouse works as great as before, I just need an active PS2/USB adapter because the only PS2 port on my mobo is for a keyboard. Could I plug the mouse in there? I haven't tested it yet.

I don't see the point in having my OS be able to do absolutely everything when I'm not going to use it to do absolutely everything. If this was a desktop PC for home, sure I'd leave it, go get a drink of water while it boots for 2 minutes, but in a carPC application I want it playing my tunes or guiding me around a new town before I leave the driveway. 55 seconds isn't unreasonable, but I know it can be better. Surprisingly msconfig was empty and there were only 39 services. Much improved over XP and especially Vista.

Yep. You might look into the Powershell also. You could probably do some major tweaking and automation through it. If you have the Windows 7 Ultimate you should have Windows PowerShell also. Not sure about the other versions if its standard or not.

hexxamillion · 10-31-2009, 01:49 AM

Just in case here is some info on Windows PowerShell.

Tical84 · 11-05-2009, 09:56 PM

The case is mostly done (needs a top) and the mobo is securely mounted. The case, although not as pretty as, is based off of blk02si's dimensions from his Mustang build. I did what I could with what I had. It's functional and no one will see it anyways. I'll call that a win.

tbird2340 · 11-05-2009, 10:33 PM

Looks sweet man.. I have a similar setup in my wife's car (link below).. I'm assuming you test fit to make sure everything was OK behind the dash? It was tight for me but I got everything in and up and running..

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