BMW E39 - Lilliput Bezel - Page 2

kraft · 01-25-2007, 05:00 AM

ok let's take buttons [+] and [-]

When you are in in the main menu of your software (you wrote youself) you can check if buttons + or - are pressed. If so you can assign a task inside your software to jump from an option to the next or previous. When you are satisfied then you press let's say the recycling air button or the phone button. It will then jump inside the selected part of the software (i.e. music player) now again you can use the + or - buttons to jump from one folder to another and chose your music. Again press the recycle air command or the phone command and it starts to play the selected music. Now that you are in the music player part of software + and - buttons will act on volume only, pressing again on recycle air or phone button could stop playing music and drops you back to the main menu or to the folder or whatever option you could program.

About the touchscreen i noticed this error possibility so there's no escape to make it work right and flawless. A huge interface with big buttons displayed and more than that a constant position of commands helps getting habits so there's no more need to watch the screen. This completed with a voice synthesis is the best workaround when there is no other way to make it work (old bus less cars).

I think you get it now

Bimmerstyle · 02-07-2007, 01:22 AM

I think I'm starting to catch your drift. When you write your own program you probably can indeed assign another function to a button depending on the screen you're in. To bad I can't write squad except for plain text...

But now I'm not sure about another issue. You say that you're using the "recycle air" button.

Since this is still connected to the Ibus and thus also to the Climatronic, doesn't the clima changes also when you press it?

kraft · 02-07-2007, 03:25 AM

Ok, for the recycle air, it was in example but we can chose another button, of course it will toggle the clima but remember we have a real computer and we can program anything, so when you are inside your software you can send double sentence, one sentence for the thing you want to be done inside your program, second, immediately behind the first with a delay of few milliseconds to not let the clima doing unexpected things, so it would avoid to let enough time for the climatronic to change really its mechanical status (moving actuators)....what i write is probably crap but i'm optimist with this idea, only experimenting with i-bus can tell if this could work or not and which are the real delays needed and of course when you are outside of your software or outside the part corresponding to the button value assigned on the fly, then the button recover it's very own function.
If you can imagine the work of a "piggy back" then you can imagine we are fooling ibus with the carpc the same way.

Bimmerstyle · 03-16-2007, 11:20 PM

Hi there, any progress on your system?
I finally managed to put the iBus controller in the car. Works like a charm! For now it just controls the volume and track up/down in roadrunner. But even so it's a major improvement.
Altough I actually don't use the track buttons often. So, I'm thinking of getting the buttons on the steering wheel from a model with original telephone (maybe even change the entire steering wheel to an M-technic)and then use the track buttons to scroll trough the playlist and the phone buttons to select and go back. I think this is more important then changing the tracks because changing the playlist is the most difficult thing to do when driving.
To do it your way is a bit to difficult for me. Writing custom software to make the buttons completely functional for all functions is essential. And as I stated before, I don't know anything about programming, so...

kraft · 03-17-2007, 04:31 PM

Oops, sorry for this late reply, i have no time for myself...

I started playing with i-bus last week and it works fine, for play / pause / stop / shuffle / volume +/- with stock buttons.
It can be done more but i had to stop due to the work i have to do for this manufacturer, so i'll be back later when i'll have finished with the project shown under. About programming i don't know what i can say except that with patience you can do whatever you want

I'm working on this new product where i'm installing some automotive embedded elements which are going beyond the only entertainement, unfortunately i can't show more than this because i have not the right to do it but i'm taking pictures anyway. Maybe the manufacturer of this brand will allow me to show more later.

You can believe me this machine is huge and simply beautiful inside but it will be more than that when i'll have finished with it adding my toys and ideas

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Bimmerstyle · 05-03-2007, 12:48 AM

We're both late repliers I guess. Sorry but i've been also busy with some other things the last few weeks so I didn't visit the forums anymore.

Didn't do anything with the iBus anymore. For now I am happy with the way it works. I'm still planning on buying an M-technic steering wheel because mine is worn out and ugly. Then I will also have the Phone buttons wich I can use to command the system. Probably to scroll trough playlists and folders.

Camper looks nice! I'm really curious what you are planning to install in there. "automotive embedded elements which are going beyond the only entertainement"! Seems interresting. Keep me updated!

Grtzz..

kraft · 05-03-2007, 01:51 AM

Lol yes late repliers we are

Sorry for this hijack of thread

Which goes beyond the only entertainment means multi power managment beiing energy from the engine, from both batteries, from the AC and solar as well but not only. I have to (i did from the last post) manage and chase each milliamp to keep the vehicle the longest as possible without having to refuel with power, webasto heater driving from a to z, hot water production, clean and dirt waters managment etc. The internal system is working in conjunction with the entertainment system so yes it goes beyond simple entertainment.
They are other features that my customer forbids disclosing for now but they are some other "interesting" things i hope i can expose a bit later

Personnaly i didn't liked so much motorhomes before this experience but i admit that it can be practical when everything in it is comfortable as in a real home.

Bimmerstyle · 05-03-2007, 10:32 AM

I really begin to wonder what your job actually is? It seems you know a bit of everything. I won't ask how you're doing this all because probably I won't understand

and you cannot explain because you're forbidden.

LiquidKernel · 05-03-2007, 02:22 PM

Fantastic work! Simply wonderful! Love the fact that you left the knob and buttons. Do they still light up orange? Perfect setup. I wish I had space for buttons on my dash (check my thread in this same forum, last page).

Good choice on the skin, too

I love the iDrive skin... best looking skin if you want your carpc to look OEM.

kraft · 05-04-2007, 03:33 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Bimmerstyle

I really begin to wonder what your job actually is?

My job is professionnal dreamer

Quote: Originally Posted by Bimmerstyle

It seems you know a bit of everything.

No i known that i know nothing but i'm interested with many things so i take time to dismantle and understand what i can

Unfortunately there are domains where i'm really dumb like painting or doing fiberglass works and generaly anything related to the use of materials and tools, wood, plexiglass etc.

Quote: Originally Posted by Bimmerstyle

I won't ask how you're doing this all because probably I won't understand

and you cannot explain because you're forbidden.

Yes you can understand

Watch your computer, it can communicate, now add a microchip which can communicate too with your computer but which is specialized with treating events from the "real world" or simply act on the "real world".
You guess what can be done using the power and specs of each involved part (computer and microchip).

Yes your computer standalone (read without microchip) could do the same but your computer would never care to do the job in strict time especially when many events occurs in same time. Weird things would happen that's why adding a microchip is the only way to be sure that what you want to be done with outer world will be done in strict time without hassles especially if you are acting on actuators, valves, solenoids, injectors or whatever other hardware.

Bimmerstyle · 05-08-2007, 01:42 AM

@Liquidkernel:

Thanks, I've put in a lot of afford to make it look OEM. Yes the buttons light up orange. If you check out my install thread, there is a pic of the dash at night.

Yours looks flawless too.

Very nice work! And indeed the iDrive skin is the one to choose if you want to make things look OEM.

@Kraft:

I'm more of a tools kinda guy. That's why my second job is at my best friends bodyshop. We're specialized in custmizing cars. If you check out my website you will find some things we did in the past.

The passat is my friend's, the other ones that say "modified by Jaenen" are also done by him and me. The site is in Dutch, if I got some spare time in the future, I want to make an English version too but I haven't got a lot of spare time.

But hey, you can look at the pictures.

If you want some fiberglass, take a look at the Black and Orange BMW. If you don't like car-tuning you probably won't like the car, but you have to appreciate the work on it. Complete fiberglass interiour that we've made! Now we are working on the same look for the trunk. The pics are on the "friends rides" pages. "De Wagen" is about my own car.

kraft · 05-08-2007, 04:19 AM

I like tuning but not all in the tuning. I prefer when it stays minimalist

i.e :

here is one original Porsche

and here is mine

One of my sons is following courses to get graduation for metal and car body works which includes fiberglass, design and paint works as well. Maybe later he will help me

For now you could kill me but i woudln't be able to cut a straight part of metal or plastic

Edit : I've been looking at your homepage, you guys are masters in fiberglass works

kraft · 05-09-2007, 10:21 AM

Sorry my video was broken, so here is the corrected version.
I suggest you downloading VLC player before attempting to read this video as windows media player does not support the video codec.

The video i corrected can be sawn from

http://www.r-kraft.com/dscf0097d.mpg

Fama · 09-25-2007, 05:53 AM

Hi,
Would you know anyone that would make one for me as i have been looking high and low for one for over 6 months with no luck. Please advise as soon as possible.
Regards
Fama

Bimmerstyle · 10-09-2007, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Hi,
Would you know anyone that would make one for me as i have been looking high and low for one for over 6 months with no luck. Please advise as soon as possible.
Regards
Fama

Sorry, didn't look at this thread for a long time.

No, I don't actually. I've made this one myself. I guess that It would be possible to have it made by any car bodyshop that has some experience with car-tuning and fiberglass. The basics are the same and a lot of times in tuned cars there are screens molded in the dash. Since there is a high level of car-tuning present in the UK I think it shouldn't be that difficult to find a bodyshop that is willing to do this for you.

We probably could do it also but we're already having more work then we can handle and I don't like shipping those things back and forward from Belgium to the UK. I think you best option is to find a bodyshop near you.

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