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    WM6 Remote Desktop Server over internet?

    Does anyone on here know of any software for windows mobile 6 that will allow phone control (ie. RD server) the internet using a RD client like say VNC etc? I've been googling and searching xda but nothing yet. I saw mention of a VNC server for mobile phones that was supposed to be released in early 2009 but I don't see the product on their website

    In my current set up I'm trying to marry my pc with a permanent wm6 phone in the car. Currently I use that phone to tether internet instead of having to pull out my main phone and it works ok using active sync with pdanet and mymobiler to interface with all the features when I'm in the car. I want to take it a step further by being able to log into the car's phone from my main phone or from a pc (say at work). That way say I wanted to find out the current position of my car for example, I could open the car's phone launch tomtom and see the position (using the phone's built-in gps. Another application would be to say take a picture or video of what's currently going on in the car etc.


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    do you have a remote start system? or even remote locks could work... i use my remote start AUX key to turn my pc on without the engine. i can then vnc to it because my truck sits within wifi range of the house.

    i think there are remote desktop apps for our phones, i havent seen any decent free ones though

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    Quote Originally Posted by trader007 View Post
    do you have a remote start system? or even remote locks could work... i use my remote start AUX key to turn my pc on without the engine. i can then vnc to it because my truck sits within wifi range of the house.

    i think there are remote desktop apps for our phones, i havent seen any decent free ones though
    No that's not what I'm trying to do. I'm not trying to VNC into my car PC, I'm trying to VNC into a permanent windows mobile phone in my car. Thanks for the suggestion tho.

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    thats what im saying though, i dont see why you need to go into the phone when all it really does is connect the pc to the internet.... just boot the pc remotely and vnc into that. now that i think about it, im not sure if there is a vnc that installs a server on the mobile side- usually people use the phone to view a pc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by trader007 View Post
    thats what im saying though, i dont see why you need to go into the phone when all it really does is connect the pc to the internet.... just boot the pc remotely and vnc into that. now that i think about it, im not sure if there is a vnc that installs a server on the mobile side- usually people use the phone to view a pc...
    Ok but your suggestion comes with a couple challenges:

    1. I'd have to do a bunch of rewiring to start the car PC with the my autostart 2-way pager and starting the PC would be limited to my pagers range (compared to over the internet with VNC into my phone - no range limit)
    2. I'd have to configure the m2 jumpers to allow for a "Always On" mode (in addition to the current setting) so the the PC can stay on if i trigger it on remotely and which introduces more concerns for the car's battery life etc.
    3. When my car pc comes on that triggers the screen to turn on (again another battery drainer) with no-one in the car, which may bring attention to a would be thief - I'm not comfortable with that.

    What makes more sense to me is to leverage the use of the phone for any small tasks it could process when the car PC is not going, such as finding it's location etc (sort of a lojack feature) etc. That way there's no rewiring, no car battery to worry about nor attention grabbers to worry about. My plan is to eventually hide the phone somewhere in the car and have it do any useful functions I can think about.

    My original posts asks for help to find a vnc server for the phone (not a client) so I'm aware that it's difficult to find - doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I've posted the question on xda-developers and will report back here when I find a solution.

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    Well the search continues.... one option (although extremely expensive) is this. Although not a feasible way of doing what I need it's an option none the less and just thought I would post.

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    i see your worries. i was going to suggest logmein actually, i didnt know for sure if they had a mobile server, but it looks like they do. overall, logmein is hard to beat for performance over any other vnc program. the subscription based fees really do suck though for people like you and me who dont use it maybe a few times a month.

    it sounds like your biggest problem with turning on the whole pc is really the screen turning on. its easy to get your remote start to turn on your pc- i did it with a simply relay switch off one of the (-) outputs for AUX. and the battery draw i am currently solving by designing and making a shutdown controller- one that will automatically shutoff the pc before the battery gets too weak to start the car. i could make a couple extra, if you want one.

    the range is not an issue for me- im rarely a half mile away from my truck... and my remote start pager goes that far. and the make shift 'low jack' feature your talking about can be done without vnc at all, just have verizon setup the feature to track a phone by emi number. i know sprint has had this feature for years, so parents can track where their kids are at.

    i suppose you have good reason to just log into the phone... the monitor part does suck since you have it turn on automatically (i use a button to turn my on everytime, for that very reason that i dont want it to come on sometimes). ill keep an eye out for free alternatives to logmein....

    btw, i couldnt imagine my carpc without the ability to use it from my couch inside my house. how do you install and setup everything while sitting in your car the whole time? that would be awful! but from what i can tell anyway, remote server for WM6 seems extremely hard to come by....

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    Quote Originally Posted by trader007 View Post
    i see your worries. i was going to suggest logmein actually, i didnt know for sure if they had a mobile server, but it looks like they do. overall, logmein is hard to beat for performance over any other vnc program. the subscription based fees really do suck though for people like you and me who dont use it maybe a few times a month.

    it sounds like your biggest problem with turning on the whole pc is really the screen turning on. its easy to get your remote start to turn on your pc- i did it with a simply relay switch off one of the (-) outputs for AUX. and the battery draw i am currently solving by designing and making a shutdown controller- one that will automatically shutoff the pc before the battery gets too weak to start the car. i could make a couple extra, if you want one.

    the range is not an issue for me- im rarely a half mile away from my truck... and my remote start pager goes that far. and the make shift 'low jack' feature your talking about can be done without vnc at all, just have verizon setup the feature to track a phone by emi number. i know sprint has had this feature for years, so parents can track where their kids are at.

    i suppose you have good reason to just log into the phone... the monitor part does suck since you have it turn on automatically (i use a button to turn my on everytime, for that very reason that i dont want it to come on sometimes). ill keep an eye out for free alternatives to logmein....

    btw, i couldnt imagine my carpc without the ability to use it from my couch inside my house. how do you install and setup everything while sitting in your car the whole time? that would be awful! but from what i can tell anyway, remote server for WM6 seems extremely hard to come by....
    I hear what you're saying and thanks for the suggestions. Not saying that all the rewiring and such is not doable but just that I'd really prefer not to go down that road. Keep in mind I'd still be limited to the range of my starter (5000ft) which is not terrible but would be out of range say at my desk at work or say across the city.Technically I could rewire the screen (using a relay) to come on with the ignition rather than the car but there are times when I'd prefer that not to be the case (for example if pc is hung up etc). I rarely have to do major system maintenance on my car so I've never looked at setting up any remote login features on it. if I need to install software or update stuff I just put it on my usb stick (attached to my keyring) and do it when I get in the car. I use a touchpad and a wireless mini keyboard in my set up as well as one of those flexible keyboards you just roll up (for the times where the mini keyboard falls short). As for my music and such I have a server at my house the pushes music to the car when and if it gets on the home network (good strength from my garage) and I also use microsoft mesh which expands that sync to the internet but only 5G storage. As for the lojack thing, unfortunately my friend I'm Canadian and neither sprint nor verizon operate here. Furthermore I ain't trying to incur more fees even if I could request such a feature. One of my main goals with my car PC is to find as many fairly cheap/free ways for adding useful features.

    On a side note what PSU are you using? I use the m2 and I know it has a low voltage protection feature at 11.2V i believe. For example my jumpers are set to commence shut down in 30s and hard shut of in 2hours, once the battery voltage is greater than 11.2V it will follow those rules, otherwise it'll just shutdown or stay off. If you have a similar PSU what's the need for the hard shutdown controller you mentioned?

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    i completely understand your situation now. biggest difference for us is that you live in the city and many times are far away from your car. in my case, i could probably leave a 100ft string tied to me and my trucks steering wheel and i would never notice lol

    the m2's low voltage shutdown is worthless (yes i use the m2 as well). it only works when the computer is off and the power supply is in sleep mode (usb devices are still pulling power, and if the battery gets too weak then it will hard shutoff before the battery gets damaged)

    IF, you are sitting without the engine running, pc on, and the battery gets weak, the m2 will continue to work and run the battery to the ground. i mean, like, 4v! its a nice power supply, it has exceptional ability to provide stable power no matter how good or bad your power source is... but it does nothing for low voltage situations when the computer is on.

    what i want is a device that shuts off the computer before the battery gets too drained to start the car. i want to sit in my car and use the pc for as long as i can, then if i go too long, i wont be stranded. this controller i designed (with help from smart engineers) will do just that- it will even give me 2 minutes warning before the pc shuts down

    another option- call the cellphone when you want to turn on the pc. a photovoltaic sensor could see the phone's screen light up, and that can trip a relay to enable the REM on the m2. just a thought! (its the same way people use to make pipe bombs remote controlled, in case youre wondering )

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