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    So Who's booting from CF???

    Hi Guys,

    I am wondering, who is booting from CF using HORM?

    Are you using Bluetooth/Phonecontrol?

    What size CF? What Brand?


    I got myself a 1gb CF card with IDE adapter (thinking 1gb would be enough since most mentions were of sticking it on a 512mb card), and got my nlite ISO to just unde 150mb... Total install with .Net, Phoco, Bluetooth was about 600mb... which took me to just over 1GB with the hiberfil.sys file..... Which means no way I can get all this and my frontend in 1GB....

    So what do you guys suggest? Get rid of the 1GB CF in favor of a 2GB cf? or forget using HORM, just use EWF and a regular boot? (in which case I should have gotten an ExtremeIII instead of the UltraII for hibernate issues)

    I dunno what to do, either way I've been hitting my head against the wall for about 2hrs... can someone suggest something before I become unconscious?
    Roy

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    l;

    You sure you want your front end on that CF card? If your enabling EWF it may be easier to move your front end to a different drive.
    Progress [I will seriously never be done!]
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    decrease RAM (which decreases hiberfil.sys file size). 600MB sounds like a lot though...you disabled the paging file?

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    @Intella:

    I might move the frontend to a different drive... although Im using RR, and I can set the resume data file to be on a different drive, and the frontend itself EWFd... my thinking is that I want the application to be as stable as possible, independent from any drive failures due to bumpy roads or such...


    @Sfiorito:
    I thought about that, although I unfortunately only have 1 stick of 512mb in that machine... I did disable the page file... windows itself is about 440mb or a bit less (no pagefile), then ATI drivers and sound drivers are almost 100mb (about 80mb), plus BT (another 30 or so) and I'm already near 600 without even GPS (another 30 with maps)... I'm going to try booting straight from the CF without hibernation... if I get something around 20secs or 25secs I might just live with it like that.... my fear is that the UltraII will be much slower than my current 2.5' hd....

    Im gonna test this setup later tonight and Ill post back...
    Roy

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    PS: im using d3 based GPS so it miust reside on the C:\ drive due to a SDK limitation AFAIK.
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    Goddamit it... Nlite's "suppress insufficiente diskspace" option isnt working... so here I goto Nlite image no. 6.... going back to my no.4 or so image in a different HD, install it, then load up on my laptop hd (whcih has one of my nlite test builds) and copy over to the CF....
    Roy

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    Hang in there.

    @Ron,

    Hang in there bud, I'm not going to tell you how many nLite build's I've been through before getting it right. It's definatly a LONG an fairly time consuming process.

    I persued resmuing from hibernation with a CF card setup and to be honest it took about the same time to cold boot than to load the hiber-image. About 12-15 seconds from cool boot. 10-13 seconds to hiber-boot (sometimes a little longer).

    Your Audio drivers you said were 80MB!? Holy Cow! I can't remember if I installed the full audio suite or just the drivers by going into device manager and choosing a location. If you install just the drivers without its corresponding application it may save you some space. How ever you may need to manually enabled SPDIF and 5.1 sound through the registry.

    I'm using an ExtremeIII which may be a little faster to boot then your ultraII, that could be why my boot times are a little quicker. I do notice that when its cold out that my system boots a little slower.

    I understand what your trying to do by relocating the ini file and that may be a better way to go. I'm writing my front end from scratch, to be hoenst I found I had to have my front end on a seperate drive so that I could make writes to the DB among some other features. I found it, with my setup to be easier. I actually started programming my front end before I knew what my final hardware setup would be like... Ohh if I could only turn back the time......
    Progress [I will seriously never be done!]
    Via EPIA MII
    512MB RAM
    OEM GPS (embedded)
    nLite WinXP pro on
    1GB Extreme III CF card
    Carnetix 1260 startup/ DC-DC regulator
    Software: Still, re-Writing my existing front end in .Net

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    Are you willing to live without Windows file protection? If so delete the contents of the dllcahche folder (lives in the system32 folder in the windows directory). That should buy you around 100 meg if you haven't already removed these files.

    Also, integrate all your device drivers directly into your nlite install. If you're missing any features you can always install the drivers after you install.
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    WFP and dllcache have already been trashed....

    How do you slipstream drivers that come on CD-rom, for example with the motherboard into nlite? Do I need to somehow extract them or can I just attach the installer?

    Sfiorito, I installed to a HD, then ran a machine with this HD and the UltraII as slaves, and copied all the HD to the UltraII with:
    Formatted UltraII as FAT (976mb~)
    ran: xcopy d: e: /s /e /r

    it copied everything (including hidden files, like boot stuff, ntldr, etc)... however when using the UltraII as master on my carpc I get an error that I need to insert a valid boot media,bla bla.... is there some preparation I must do to the UltraII? I just formatted it from within the computer I used to copy from hd->cf...

    any ideas?
    Roy

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    did you run bootprep after you formatted?

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