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    Boot using BartPE/WinPE or another OS and copy all the files (hidden files included) from the HDD to the CF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SFiorito View Post
    Boot using BartPE/WinPE or another OS and copy all the files (hidden files included) from the HDD to the CF.
    I have Windows.XP.USB.Stick.Edition.. would that be something that would help me w/ that?

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    Yes, as long as it's another OS so there are no files in use by your OS being transferred.

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    The Extreme IV just isn't working. No matter how I format it, after bootprep I get the "disk read error". I tried zero filling the CF, formatting in 5 different OS, formatting in camera, hardware encrypt then format, and also using XP cd. I am not giving up just yet though, because the Extreme IV boots XPe off USB just fine. This is still the only card I can't seem to get working. The Extreme IV does indeed boot any other operating system I have tried, through IDE as well as SATA. It is only XP and XPe.

    For reference, there are other cards that are similar to this one in performance. The Transcend Industrial has UDMA4, the Lexar 300x has UDMA4(specs say a maximum of 45MB/s), as well as some other brands.. but the real industrial ones are quite expensive. I can't wait for CF spec 4.0 to come out, with CF cards supporting UDMA6(just like a real IDE hdd, 133MB/s max throughput).

    Here are some benchmarks I did on the Extreme IV through SATA.

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    Oh, and about your CF to SATA adapter..

    The problem with CF to SATA adapters are that they are no longer a straight connection like the IDE to CF adapters. They need a chip which could conflict with the SATA chipset on the computer/hba, causing incompatibilities. Certain linux distributions and sometimes windows won't like this, you might get around it by patching your kernel. There is really not much you can do to circumvent this, besides just finding a different sata controller, or finding a different cf to sata adapter with uses a different chip, or another CF. Or, just use the IDE CF adapter instead. There is really not much difference in transfer, considering the CF speed.

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    Hi,
    I am trying to make a computer to boot with an Sandisk Extreme IV on an IDE to CF adapter. It should boot from a Knoppix CD image.
    First I tried the manual like on

    http://staff.washington.edu/gray/KnoppixCFguide.html

    but I just don't get it right. Although I don't want to install Linux on the CF card, I installed it and it worked ok.
    But thats not what I want.
    I want to boot it from a knoppix image like it would boot from a CD or DVD, every time a clean Knoppix boot, but now much faster. when I restart the computer it should be like it's booting for the first time. I am not interested in having any files saved or written or what so ever.

    Can anyone please help me?

    I don't thimk I am the first one who is trying this so I am hoping some of you guys have some experience you want to share.
    Thanks in advance.
    I apologize if I overlooked a thread which already had this subject. If so please point me to it.


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    Sorry, always considered Knoppix too large for CF application..

    On another note, another Extreme IV booted standard XP with little coaxing. I am still have difficulty with the current, I really believe it is an isolated incident. I am going to have this one replaced, then start benchmarking RAID performances

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machinist View Post
    Sorry, always considered Knoppix too large for CF application..

    On another note, another Extreme IV booted standard XP with little coaxing. I am still have difficulty with the current, I really believe it is an isolated incident. I am going to have this one replaced, then start benchmarking RAID performances
    Any updates Machinist?

    I'm looking at buying the addonics SATA to CF adapter and a Sandisk Extreme IV. But before i do i want to know how your getting on with yours.
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    This Extreme IV is working for me. However, if you don't have the fixed disk tool I suggest Transcend's recently released 266x cards. They automatically switch from PIO to UDMA, and they have very similar speeds of ~40MB/s. One thing to note on the SATA-CF adapter is that regardless of the type of CF, any card connected shows up as a fixed disk under XP. This is probably due to the SATA chip's host driver. IDE-CF is more popular, the drivers know to set it accordingly as removable storage. For SATA-CF, drivers only detect as real SATA drive (so it just shows fixed). But I still recommend a real fixed disk CF media.

    It really looks like these faster CF cards are dropping in the price. Until the end of the month(May), SanDisk has a series of rebates for their Extreme III and Extreme IV line of CF cards.

    http://www.slickdeals.net/

    Extreme IV
    2GB = $40
    4GB = $55
    8GB = $109

    Transcend's 266x cards aren't far off either:

    2GB = $42
    4GB = $80
    8GB = $150

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    Epia 800 + Win XPe + CF & boot errrors

    Hi everybody,
    maybe my experiences may help someone.

    Use cf just when everything is ok
    Preparing an hd or a cf is the same:
    • attach your target cf or hd
    • boot from a Win 98 boot floppy and put on it (or another floppy) fdisk.exe, bootprep.exe and format.com
    • from dos prompt, with fdisk, create a primary partition and mark it as active (it is possible just if no other hd with an active partition is attached)
    • format as FAT16 (not shure if a reboot is needed before formatting
    • IMPORTANT: copy bootprep on yuor target hd or cf
    • type #: (where # is you cf/hd) at dos prompt and run bootprep /d#
    • if everything is ok, you can see a new file "bootrec.old" on it
    • at this point you can test your cf/hd: if bios setting are right, it will appear a "NTLDR missing..." message
    • now you can copy image files generated from "target designer" and during first boot you will see FBA messages


    I tried a lot of times before getting all working on an Epia 800, a Dikom 2GB CF
    and an anonimous IDE2CF adapter and here are same tricks:
    • if you still have boot problems try connecting IDE2CF adapter on secondary ide channel
    • try booting with CF configured as master and then as slave device


    Hoping this may be useful,
    Gianni

    PS: Sorry for mistakes

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