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    Question more bluetooth problems!

    i have a nokia 6820...you know the smaller/newer of the two nokia flip-out keyboard phones...great phone, has bluetooth, edge compatibility, etc...i bought a usb bluetooth dongle on ebay, dont even know the brand, but it seems like i am able to only connect to my computer for about 5 seconds and then i get disconnected...without fail, no matter which of those 'plugins' i am using (ie audio gateway etc)...seems like its working perfectly, accepts the pin code, the icon stays green (indicating a good connection) on my computer for a few seconds, then it disconnects...i would like to be able to control the phone/dial out from my phonebook..i assume phonecontrol does this (though i havent looked at the software yet, because i still am working on getting a stable connection to the computer)...I have one of the latest versions of widcomms software and xp sp2 installed...I did notice that the dongle was shipped from the UK, should I buy a version that was made for here in the US? anyone have any problems like this, any help would be appreciated!

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    maybe the there are frequency limits on it since its from the UK, same reason why you have to set your WiFi card for other countries to pickup the local hotspots better. Becuase the frequncies are limited by the FCC

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    mate, I am having the exact same problems at the moment, when you installed the driver software did it prompt you to "now place the usb device in"

    When you did this, did windows in un-characteristic style jump right in and say "ooh I found something now I installed it as well"

    'cos thats what happend to me, and it resulted in the same symptoms as well

    Well, fortunatley I found a guide on how to get round this, in summary

    1. uninstall all Bluetooth software and reboot
    2. re-install the bluetooth software with 1 exception, don't plug the device in when requested and proceed to end of installtion
    3. Plug the dongle in now and let windows do its hi-jacking thing
    4. Go to Device Manager and then the bluetooth option
    5. You shoul see there is a Generic bluetooth driver
    6. Right mouse click and select update driver
    7. Don't connect to the internet
    8. Search from a list you provide
    9. Check show compatible hardware (if not already selected)
    10. You should now see the hardware you just installed
    11. select that and finish
    12 When you go back to Device Manager, there should be only 1 bluetooth driver

    You should now be able to open My Bluetooth Places and start working from there

    Beyond this I can't help 'cos im stuck myself

    I can however get the Nokia PC suite working fine but I want to do a bit more than that, I ain't got round to installing Phone Control yet but I have a feeling it will give me more than MS Dialler (usually 3rd party utils are better)

    Hope this helps

    Cheers
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    well in order for me to get the pc suite working, I need to get the cell phone to STAY connected to the computer...still having problems doing that as I explained...but thanks for the advice...I will give it a try...

    Also, this usb dongle was particularly made for cell phones, and came with a computer program called "mobile phonetools"...its apparently not currently compatible with the 6820, but if I remember it is compatible with the 6810 and i...it pops up as a little cell phone on your screen, and you can dial, send txt messages, phone book, and create internet connections...you should look into it...I have a feeling though that it will be compatible with mine once I get the connection secured, assuming I tell it I have another nokia phone running a similar operating system (Series 40?)

    thanks..look foward to your posts!

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    FYI the audio gateway and headset profiles for bluetooth will not stay connected unless there is an active phone call. What you are seeing on your pc, (stays connected for 5 sec) is designed to be this way and is working correctly. Have you tried to place a phone call on your cellphone then activate the audiogateway? I dont own a nokia phone (SE T610) but ive been through all the bluetooth issues you seem to be having. With my older phone SE T68i the only way i could use my pc as a headset was if i paired/bonded my phone with the pc in a specific order, ie; the phone has to initiate the pairing and not the pc. With my T610 it dosent matter which device starts the pairing, could be the same for your nokia bluetooth.

    Are you able to connect to your phone through bluetooth serial ports?

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    I can thru com1 but for some reason i have other serial com ports that don't allow connections, even when I try them individually (sorry about the hijack)
    if you can't find time to do it right, when are you gonna find time to do it over.

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    Haven't had time to read the whole thing, but have you tried using the bluetooth functionality on other computers? I would first try that to see if it's a phone problem. If it works on other computers, you may have a few things wrong:

    1. Bluetooth dongles are NOTORIOUS for complicated, finicky installations. I would completely uninstall everything, download the newest drivers for your specific dongle.

    The version of the WIDCOMM software is EXTREMELY important - some dongles don't support the newest version of WIDCOMM drivers. I'll give you an example, I have an old D-Link bluetooth adapter, I could only use a certain version of the WIDCOMM drivers with this adapter, it is not compatible with the newer drivers.

    In addition, SP2 could have something to do with it. SP2 comes with some sort of bluetooth support built-in. It could be screwing with WIDCOMM.

    Uninstall the WIDCOMM drivers in Safe Mode and reinstall them like you normally would - follow the instructions that came with your dongle very closely - there has been more than one occasion where I have plugged in a new piece of USB hardware prior to installing the software. Problems would come up and the first line in the product manual would read in huge bold and capitalized letters that I must install the software prior to plugging in the device.

    2. You could be having interference issues. Bluetooth runs on 2.4GHz - the same band as WiFi and most new cordless phones.

    Good luck and hopefully this helps.

    -HD

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    Quote Originally Posted by liquid_smoke
    FYI the audio gateway and headset profiles for bluetooth will not stay connected unless there is an active phone call. What you are seeing on your pc, (stays connected for 5 sec) is designed to be this way and is working correctly. Have you tried to place a phone call on your cellphone then activate the audiogateway? I dont own a nokia phone (SE T610) but ive been through all the bluetooth issues you seem to be having. With my older phone SE T68i the only way i could use my pc as a headset was if i paired/bonded my phone with the pc in a specific order, ie; the phone has to initiate the pairing and not the pc. With my T610 it dosent matter which device starts the pairing, could be the same for your nokia bluetooth.

    Are you able to connect to your phone through bluetooth serial ports?
    i have not tried through the serial ports...i didnt notice that any were installed, but i will take a closer look...that is an interesting point you make...i have been doing a lot of reading on the prospect of using bluetooth dongles to get speakerphone-like operation on the carputer and the conclusion i have come to is that it is very difficult...so i think my main concern is that i am able to a) dial from the screen either numbers or from phonebook and b) gprs connection so i can get internet to my carputer...so what this means is that i WOULDNT have an active phone call going...i am using the computer to make the call! the cell phone control software that came with the dongle (mobile phonetools) is supposed to automatically pair to the phone (by somehow integrating with widcomm) when i turn on the software, which it DOES, but then after 5 seconds, BAM, it disconnects and i cant communicate w/ the phone...interestingly, it was able to maintain the connection just long enough to synchronize the text messages on my phone to the computer but thats it (which leads me to believe that it is infact compatible with my cell phone, as long as you select a phone that is running the same OS)...so, there you have it, im having the dropped connection problem not only just attempting to connect via widcomms various profiles, but also within the cell phone software...agh!! anyone know for sure whether it could be that this dongle was for UK phones? cause like i mentioned before, it did get shipped to me (ebay auction), from the UK...

    speaking of which...here is the link to the dongle i purchased for all you guy's info

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...e=STRK:MEWN:IT

    i know..i cheaped out...im willing to pay now though, if whatever the solution is will work well...

    also no prob about the hijack, this is for everyone to post

    i did consider the interference possibility, but i have determined that that is not an issue, for one just cause i tried it without the wireless card in the laptop, and also, nowadays they sell laptops with wireless and bluetooth built in (like my fathers dell x300), so i think somehow the wireless devices are able to switch to a different channel and not interfere with each other

    lastly, i WOULD be willing to purchase a separate phone that will just permanently be in the car (preferably in the trunnk with the computer) and connected (either via bluetooth or a data cable) if i can get the functionality that I am looking for...i want to dial using the carputer, and for speaker/mic i can use my bluetooth jabra headset...so if anyone has any success getting all these functions by just leaving a phone directly connected, id love ta hear about it!!!!!

    sorry about the long post guys

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    I have the 6822. Also having probs with it. Anyone els have this phone or teh 6820?

    G

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    I also have a 6820. And I am having the same problem. I can get it to work if I first connect, and then navigate the menus to "Paired Devices" and connect, then the PC will take over as a headset. But that is retarded; why not auto-connect or at least give me a button? I am more and more realizing why Nokia phones cost less...

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