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    also, a lot of people just use the mac address filters to allow only certain computers to connect, but turning encryption off (having it show up as unsecured, but you still can't get connected)

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    i also agree, i might be illegal to stop and tap (internet), but if all your doing and assuming your just stopping for a few minutes (as most do) to check an email and maybe a web page, then i doubt anyone would know much less be able to prove beyond a reasonable doubt what you have done. Also as most have stated since most home networks are open (not encryptic), this usually means {USUALLY!}, their not to computer literate, and they wouldnt even know it if you was parked in their driveways downloading off napster for half an hour and the homeowner was sitting at his computer.. So with all this being said... Im not saying what to or not to do out thier but just this... If you have a WIrless system in your CAR-PC as i do and you are a honest person who occasionally picks up a signal and uses it to just check emails and web pages as such, and does not try to log in to the main computer servers or other things as such, i dont think you need worry about much, nothing is black and white (until you have broken the law of course). I find most Resturants(no-names given) have an open system and i can check emails and think im ok as long as im no changing anything (which i could,trust me....), but all ill accomplish is one less wifi free spot (and possible trouble if caught).

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    Quote Originally Posted by zPilott
    also, a lot of people just use the mac address filters to allow only certain computers to connect, but turning encryption off (having it show up as unsecured, but you still can't get connected)
    To hi-jack this thread, slightly... I have been wondering about this.... I use the MAC address limiting thingy on my Linksys wireless router.... So mine does show up as "Unsecure"... everytime I tried WEP it just turned into a royal PITA to get myself connected... I know it shouldn't but it always did....

    So, my question.... If only my two wireless USB adapters are listed in the MAC Filter area is that secure? Is everybody else blocked out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bugbyte
    It's illegal to use someone's wireless network just because they are too stupid to protect it. Same as it's illegal to use their car just because they left the keys in it.

    Granted, the punishment differs but it's sort of like tapping into their phone line and using it only for local calls and only when they aren't using it. Still against the law.
    That's not actually true yet. There's been discussion about the issue, but this is one of those situations where everyone assumes that it's illegal, but it's not. Sometime soon there may be a law passed, but until then, this is not illegal. We've discussed this before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dug1967
    So, my question.... If only my two wireless USB adapters are listed in the MAC Filter area is that secure? Is everybody else blocked out?
    Yes and no, all someone has to do is scan for active wifi devices (E.g. your USB wireless adapters) grab their mac address, and them spoof it. Most people would have no clue how to do it, but someone experianced could be on your network in 30 seconds or less.

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    Yeah, the lowes guys were inserting a trojan that modified the CC software to export the #s. There are still no laws about using wifi networks. They are broadcast, and it would be the responsibility of the owner to ensure that they don't share their connection by careful placement of equipment etc. They are violating their own TOS with most ISPs by making it available to the public.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Creoden
    Yes and no, all someone has to do is scan for active wifi devices (E.g. your USB wireless adapters) grab their mac address, and them spoof it. Most people would have no clue how to do it, but someone experianced could be on your network in 30 seconds or less.

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    Plus you have to keep in mind that your data is transferred in PLAIn text. That means anyone sitting close enough can sniff you WLAN traffic and get passwords. Not from your bank, ebay, amazon, etc. since these sites are smart anough to use SSL, but maybe if you login to this ofrum, or you telnet some computer at work....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Creoden
    Yes and no, all someone has to do is scan for active wifi devices (E.g. your USB wireless adapters) grab their mac address, and them spoof it. Most people would have no clue how to do it, but someone experianced could be on your network in 30 seconds or less.

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    i've got a friend that just did that on a network
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