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    Quote Originally Posted by mgithens
    ok, now put it down if you took the tag off your mattress...
    its not illegal to tear the tags off of the mattress, as long as your not a reseller....

    okay, im done, just thought you all needed a break from this legal crap!
    I had a perfect quote to go here,
    but hell only knows what I did with it....

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    Quote Originally Posted by god_of_cpu
    I think wifi access is just like tresspassing laws. i.e. a person doesn't have a right to walk on someone else's lawn, but they can only be prosecuted for the offense if you post a no-tresspassing sign or otherwise secure in a way that is clear and concise to the tresspasser that they are in fact walking on private property against the owners will.

    And if the RIAA or someone else comes knocking on your door cause illegal activity was conducted using your equipment, the burden of proof will be on you to both show that you did not do the illegal activity and that you took reasonable precautions to prevent other people from committing illegal activities with your equipment. This is just how the parents of children who used computer for illegal file sharing were procescuted.
    i always thought burden of proof was the responsiblity of the accusing party

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    From what I've gathered here software like netstumbler or winc works... Never tried it yet..... Isn't there a demo of winc???

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    Quote Originally Posted by LOstBoy
    From what I've gathered here software like netstumbler or winc works... Never tried it yet..... Isn't there a demo of winc???
    I experimented with Winc. I got a demo version by typing in "download winc" into the search feild... Yes! I finally got to use it!

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    What's removed in the demo version? Or is it just time limited. If it's the latter I'll need to wait until I have my car pc more setup before I start experimenting with it to decide if it's worth buying.
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    the best way is usually with your card's config utility. I have a belkin 54g pci card and that software sucks, but with my new trendnet card, it automatically connects when configured. so much better than my belkin, i ended up ordering another one.

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    I just picked up a 2nd usb 802.11g card from Frys for only $10. It seems to be the same hardware as the TrendNet (since both the new and old card use the same driver and are now showing up as 'TrendNet' devices since I elected to keep the newer TrendNet driver binary) I already had but the software has the option of confifuring one or more of the wireless nics to run as an AP, which is ideal since I want an AP running so I can easily have my laptop connect to the car PC and with standard Windoze 'zero-config' wireless, that takes lots of manual configuration or just plain luck if the wireless you want to connect to is an adhoc one.

    So I can probably have one running as an AP, and the other trying to connect for war driving. I wish I'd bought another one at $10 to dismantle to see if I can hook up an external, amplified antenna! At $10, it seems worth a shot

    I'll have to see if the TrendNet utility had the same feature and I just missed it (I think I looked after getting a similar response to the above with a post asking if you could configure a nic to be an AP under windows). Then I guess I try the AirTouch (the new one) software to see if it's better at detecting and connecting to wireless networks as I drive past them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by welthqa
    the best way is usually with your card's config utility. I have a belkin 54g pci card and that software sucks, but with my new trendnet card, it automatically connects when configured. so much better than my belkin, i ended up ordering another one.
    I think you are missing the point here... the goal is to get one that automatically connects to networks that have never been seen before... random connections for tiny tidbits of data...

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    Quote Originally Posted by welthqa
    the best way is usually with your card's config utility. I have a belkin 54g pci card and that software sucks, but with my new trendnet card, it automatically connects when configured
    Quote Originally Posted by mgithens
    I think you are missing the point here... the goal is to get one that automatically connects to networks that have never been seen before... random connections for tiny tidbits of data...
    That really does seem to be what he's saying to me. The config utilities that came with my two USB wireless nics appear to be very similar (the hardware seems to be basically identical with different brand names). I did notice that the utilities update *FAR* more quickly than the windoze zero config crap (if you read that as meaning impossible to configure, it's a bit closer to the truth). So I expect that they'll detect to a new wireless network *FAR* faster too. I'm going to give it a go some time soon with my laptop (have yet to get my car PC in the car...).
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    Just played around with the old TrendNet software. God it looks useless. I certainly can't run the usb nic as an AP with that and its looks far from promising in terms of quick connection when war driving. Also, you have to manually disable Windoze zero config before you can even run the TrendNet config utility. The 'Airtouch' version is a lot more obvious, and in my quick testing will connect extremely rapidly to an unprotect network (within a second most attempts at disabling the WEP key on the other wireless USB nic configured as an AP). I'll see how well it does when actually driving to work tomorrow. Windoze by comparison will take minutes and often require manual clicking of 'refresh network list button' several times before it wakes up to the fact there's another AP available.
    Quote Originally Posted by welthqa
    the best way is usually with your card's config utility. I have a belkin 54g pci card and that software sucks, but with my new trendnet card, it automatically connects when configured. so much better than my belkin, i ended up ordering another one.
    I think you must have very different software with your PCI card - can you post a screen shot? The software I got with my TrendNet usb wireless nic seems like an utter pile of ...
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