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    Need wireless internet advice / help !

    I've been pouring over these forums for the past month or so, and I have gotten a lot of good ideas for equiptment and installation. However, I have yet to find a decent guide to wireless internet.

    Here's the delemma:

    I need basic wireless internet connectivity for the car. From what I have read here and elsewhere, the free internet through WAP hacks are being shut down by the wireless providers. I don't want to sign a two year contract at $50 per month for wireless internet that I'm not going to use all that often. However, I need a connection that is reasonably quick (at least 56k.) Also, I don't want to get slammed with a bunch of overage charges just because I happen to go to a flash website that eats up my bandwidth.

    Here's what I have found through the wireless companies in my area:

    Cingular: $59.99 for unlimited, or $20 for 5MB / month and $.008/ KB after that.

    Verizon: $59.99 for unlimited access.

    T-Mobile: $49.99 for unlimited

    Suncom: $5.00 for 5MB / flex fit to $50 max charge for unlimited

    So far, Suncom looks like the best deal. It's not very fast, but at least it's cheap and allows me to go where I want and maxes out at $50 if I go over one month.

    Cingular's would be great- $20 / month for much faster service- but then I have to monitor my bandwidth very carefully. For instance, let's look at Cingular's charge of $.008 / KB. Let's say I get a few attachments in my email and it costs me an extra 10MB one month. 10MB = 10240 KB * .008 = $81.92, plus the $20 I already paid for the first 5MB = $101.92 (plus taxes & fees). That's just sick.

    So, I'm at my wits end here. Is there a way around paying huge fees for wireless internet? $10-$20 seems reasonable, but I can't see spending $60 and being locked into it for two years.

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    Mobile internet is a luxury. As such, it carries the elevated price tag.
    Deal with it.
    Have you looked in the FAQ yet?
    How about the Wiki?



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    Quote Originally Posted by coffeejolts
    I've been pouring over these forums for the past month or so, and I have gotten a lot of good ideas for equiptment and installation. However, I have yet to find a decent guide to wireless internet.
    you haven't "poured over them" enough. this topic has been discussed many times. here's your answer spoon-fed. open up wide.

    if you aren't with cingular, switch to cingular. read this thread
    Cingular Internet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freelander
    here's your answer spoon-fed. open up wide.
    I don't expect to be spoon fed. I have already looked at the medianet unlimited plan and decided not to risk it.

    The Cingular $19.99 MediaNet service prohibits tethering to a computer or any other device. It's strictly for in-phone use. I know that people are getting away with it right now, but if they crack down on it then those same peeps are in for one hell of a cell phone bill. Personally, I don't want to sweat it out every month waiting to see whether Cingular has caught on.

    I would not have posted had I not searched through all of this stuff. So, if anyone else knows of a real, legal, reasonably fast and reasonably priced solution to mobile internet, I'd like to hear about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coffeejolts
    I don't expect to be spoon fed. I have already looked at the medianet unlimited plan and decided not to risk it.

    The Cingular $19.99 MediaNet service prohibits tethering to a computer or any other device. It's strictly for in-phone use. I know that people are getting away with it right now, but if they crack down on it then those same peeps are in for one hell of a cell phone bill. Personally, I don't want to sweat it out every month waiting to see whether Cingular has caught on.

    I would not have posted had I not searched through all of this stuff. So, if anyone else knows of a real, legal, reasonably fast and reasonably priced solution to mobile internet, I'd like to hear about it.
    Well I dont think you search enuff. Sprint is $15 a month for their data plan connected to a phone. Thats what I have surfing forums is find but surfing ebay is slow.

    The easiest way is wifi thats free. Buying hardware is the only cost.

    Also satellite 1mb down and 256k up. I seen mobile setups costing $500-$3k and service is $60 a month like dsl.

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    Just because you're poor, doesn't mean you can't live luxury. just have to work alitto

    Get a good capable Edge phone
    Switch to big "red T"
    do some searching
    you might end with 5.99 for unlimited usage.

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    T-Mobile sucks, the software isn't that good and the connection is really slow.

    Verizon is a lot faster and has better coverage.

    I don't have experince using a suncom setup.
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    Thanks for all the tips, ppl.

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    Data Speeds

    It all depends on what you want to do and how fast you want it.

    Both Sprint and Verizon use CDMA and offer data service on their high speed broadband networks (EVDO). Peak data rates are just over 2Mbps, but average around 600Kbps. If you are out of EVDO network coverage, then you drop to CDMA1X speeds which peak at 144Kbps.

    Cingular is now just rolling out HSDPA which is comparable to EVDO, but it's only in 16 cities in the US. Outside of HSDPA coverage you drop to EDGE (similar speeds to CDMA1X), and outside of EDGE you drop to GPRS (best just to hang up if you are trying to surf the web).

    TMobil has neither EVDO or HSDPA, but has EDGE.

    The chart below from www.evdoinfo.com gives you an idea of how long it takes to download a file on the different technologies. (HSDPA would be similar to EVDO). With Cingular now entering into the wireless broadband space, prices are likely to fall (as Verizon's did going down from $79.99 to $59.99 when Sprint entered the market).
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