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    Long responses and didn't read it all but

    If you see an open door and you walk in the house, that's breaking an entering, your arrested.

    You whip out your laptop and connect to someone's open 802.11g, is that the same? No. The technology is there and if a home user is dumb enough to plug and play his $50 router without doing some security passwords on it then it's his own problem.

    I mean they created the writeable dvds at some point and people copy dvds all the time. Do you blame the person or the companies who created the technology to make such acts possible?

    I personally am not that honest so I'll loose very little sleep from using someones wireless connection.
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    Quote Originally Posted by samc
    Long responses and didn't read it all but

    If you see an open door and you walk in the house, that's breaking an entering, your arrested.

    You whip out your laptop and connect to someone's open 802.11g, is that the same? No. The technology is there and if a home user is dumb enough to plug and play his $50 router without doing some security passwords on it then it's his own problem.

    I mean they created the writeable dvds at some point and people copy dvds all the time. Do you blame the person or the companies who created the technology to make such acts possible?

    I personally am not that honest so I'll loose very little sleep from using someones wireless connection.
    You walk into my house and your dead. If the 300lb plus of dogs don't get you I will. Locks and encryption keep the honest people honest. Everybody else are just freaking thieves.


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    Relax yourself cowboy, don't try to e-flex your muscles by saying your going to beef down an intruder when in fact you'll be hiding in the corner crying like a girl.

    The technology is made, if "they" (term used loosely) didn't want you to use someone's connection why invent a wireless router, why invent a wireless card, why invent a computer?

    You haven't ever copied a dvd, recorded a tv show on a vcr tape or installed an illegal copy of a program into your computer? Ofcourse you have, and yes all are illegal but it's a fact of life. Technology exists so these types of things won't stop.

    If you don't want your wireless connection breached then properly secure it, simple right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by samc
    Relax yourself cowboy, don't try to e-flex your muscles by saying your going to beef down an intruder when in fact you'll be hiding in the corner crying like a girl.

    The technology is made, if "they" (term used loosely) didn't want you to use someone's connection why invent a wireless router, why invent a wireless card, why invent a computer?

    You haven't ever copied a dvd, recorded a tv show on a vcr tape or installed an illegal copy of a program into your computer? Ofcourse you have, and yes all are illegal but it's a fact of life. Technology exists so these types of things won't stop.

    If you don't want your wireless connection breached then properly secure it, simple right?

    Last time I checked recording broadcast tv was leagle. Though I don't own a vcr anymore, my wife does record stuff on the pvr.

    I own all my software thank-you.

    Who said anything about "beefing" down an intruder, I'll shoot the bastard.
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    samc, you commit the slippery slope falacy by making those deductions and reasons. All of your statments are your opinions (and i disagree with most of them), and because they are opinions you can not state the end assertion as fact.

    logic class ftw.

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    Purdoom you really should stay out of this. You yourself advertise a way to cheat boost mobile out of cheap airtime. But do I think your a criminal? No... someone figured out (maybe it was you) how to loop hole Nextel and get cheap internet access out of it. I'm sure Nextel would love all of their subscribers to read your thread and do the exact same thing.

    But you proved my point well, whether you are a saint or not and see something as illegal, it will continue to exist. Technology exists and new things just like this will come out in the near future for you to discuss.



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    On wardriving, from what I've read really that's only finding a list of APs in your neighborhood. Whehter you access them or not is something totally different. But I doubt a majority of the people out there are sitting at a starbucks and figuring out how to steal someone's information off their desktop. That sounds so 90s.

    And the other guy, stop shooting people.
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    sorry it posted twice by mistake.
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    jesus christ let this thread die .... I will always take free internet if your network is open. Good luck finding me also.... DISABLING THIS THREAD...
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    wow, someone lock this thread. It's gone from facts to flexing nuts.

    I thought this thread was more about how legal it is to connect, rather than how well you can lock down your wireless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by samc

    If you see an open door and you walk in the house, that's breaking an entering, your arrested.

    Wrong, if you enter a property through an open door it is not breaking and entering, it's at worse trespassing, and the law on that varies from country to country and propbably state to state.

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