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    Quote Originally Posted by Freelander
    @jahntassa: you found a general, short definition of war driving.

    am I missing something here? what is the point of ONLY war driving?
    That's fine, give me a more specific, long, and agreed upon definition of Wardriving.

    By itself, there probably isn't a point, but that's not what the topic title is.

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    I'm no lawyer, but i'm sure Wardriving could be considered "conspiracy to commit computer fraud", and I'm sure some day someone will be busted for something like this, after checking their email on someone elses wifi network
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    That would be a tough argument. Wardriving in itself does not show intent- if you are only receiving wifi signals, you are not actively transmitting & joining networks. What's wrong with that? You are merely listening to what's being broadcast around you.

    Wardriving could be usefull for finding T-Mobile Hot-spots or ChilliSpots right?

    Regarding wifi security, I only use WPA encryption with the maximum random encryption password - totally unhackable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phc
    Regarding wifi security, I only use WPA encryption with the maximum random encryption password - totally unhackable.

    Not so much. When your wireless device connects with you AP it transmits a small piece of youe WEP. If you capture enough packets the WEP can be cracked.

    The better and more secure thing to do is utilize a random WEP but also limit the devices that can use your AP by filtering the MAC address. This can be cracked too...that can take some time. Unless someone has a reason to crack it they will pass right on.

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    Yes, WEP is easily crackable, WPA is not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WarDriver
    HA!...Yea right. I know cops (State and Local) personally and have used their in car systems. Most have WiFi and many use netstumbler to find an open network to check email.
    Yup, I know many cops who do this as well.

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    "Does that mean that you can simply walk in and use their POTS (plain old telephone service) phone mounted on their kitchen wall?"

    Im not so sure i agree with this analogy as it applies to the argument. If somebody attaches a 200 yard cord to their home phone and ran it down the street, around the corner, through a hedge row, over a creek, and placed it next to a park bench, you really think anyone would get arrested for making a call on it?

    As for the issue opf the legality of wardriving. There's nothing illegal about the act itself or the collection of data. But if you get popped for fraudulently exploiting that data, expect it to be used against you in a court of law!

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    Quote Originally Posted by phc
    Yes, WEP is easily crackable, WPA is not.

    WPA is pretty easy as well, just takes a little longer. Wardrivers don't connect, period. Once you connect you are a thief, period. 99% of all internet prividers have a no sharing clause in their TOS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BarryWoods
    WPA is pretty easy as well, just takes a little longer.
    Little longer? Like decades right? WPA encryption is not crackable.

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