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Thread: Scion xB '06, in-dash Atom 330, Lilliput 889GL; details, pictures, links. Index: pg 1

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    Quote Originally Posted by freeflashstuff View Post
    Looking good! Hopefully those pesky bugs will be exterminated soon...
    Yeah, I'm hoping the bugs are MP3Car's, not ours. We tried posting from my account and Josh's, from four different machines both at home and at work, and the same problem exists. I'll stick with the Picasa pix until it's figured out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiberoptic View Post
    We have found the bad plug in, just working to fix it now.
    Looks like they're working on fixing the exploit and the upload issue. I think they disabled uploading because of the hacks that have been occurring. I'm going to try an upload to see if it works for me.
    I have bad luck with vehicles...

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    This is what I ended up with:

    Warning: move_uploaded_file(imagehosting/tmp_1573584b0c1686bd0a4) [function.move-uploaded-file]: failed to open stream: Permission denied in [path]/vbimghost.php on line 773
    The directory is locked so no uploads can be completed.

    Warning: move_uploaded_file() [function.move-uploaded-file]: Unable to move '/tmp/phpkzO9op' to 'imagehosting/tmp_1573584b0c1686bd0a4' in [path]/vbimghost.php on line 773
    The temporary upload directory is locked, so uploads can't start.

    Warning: imagecreatefromjpeg(imagehosting/1573584b0c1686bff7e.jpg) [function.imagecreatefromjpeg]: failed to open stream: No such file or directory in [path]/includes/vbimghost_include.php on line 53
    The upload script is not present in the directory the page looks in.

    Warning: imagecopyresampled(): supplied argument is not a valid Image resource in [path]/includes/vbimghost_include.php on line 56
    I don't know on this one. Looks to be a syntax error or something?

    Warning: imagejpeg() [function.imagejpeg]: Unable to open 'imagehosting/thum_1573584b0c1686bff7e.jpg' for writing: Permission denied in [path]/includes/vbimghost_include.php on line 61
    Again, the directory is locked.

    Warning: imagedestroy(): supplied argument is not a valid Image resource in [path]/includes/vbimghost_include.php on line 86
    Looks like (maybe) another syntax error.

    This is just what I think. It may or may not be correct, as I have limited experience with PHP and SQL...
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    When the image is uploaded, it's blank. Also, the blank images can't be deleted...:

    Screenshots: (my Web server)


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    Ah, I just got a PM, and the issue is fixed. I tested it, and it works fine. Now we just need to get the blank images deleted, and we're good to go.
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    Re-Positioning the WiFi Head

    While the newly-installed WiFi head is in a good position, it's right out in the open:


    I'd like more of a concealed location, if possible, so I considered several options:
    • Move it over toward the center of the dash, so it's not the first thing you see. I'm not sure if there would be any conflict between WiFi and GPS; I'll look around for comments on that.
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    • Build a USB port right into the instrument cluster bezel, and eliminate the need for the USB base. Then only the stick would stand out.
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    • Run a USB line up around the windshield and either attach it to the rearview mirror or build a port right onto the mirror housing.

    That last choice is the most appealing. To start in that direction, I'll run a USB line up to the mirror -- right alongside the power and data cables for the radar detector -- and either attach the cable or a port to the back of the mirror, with the plug facing out to the side. That should give me a relatively unobtrusive location for the WiFi stick, that would still let me get to it easily if I need to.

    I'll run the cable over the Thanksgiving holiday that starts tonight. I also plan to finish modifying the cables for the radar detector, and I'll get some pictures on that, too.
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    Keeping the Touchscreen Up

    One problem with my incomplete installation is that the touchscreen wants to slide down on its mounting slot. I'm running with a single fastener right now -- here's a repeat of the picture showing the mounting system:



    Click image to enlarge.

    The nut is only on finger-tight. That allows me to try out various screen positions to see what suits me best. But, once in a while, the screen has a mind of its own, and it just decides to slide down. I'm going to have to make that second fastener for it.

    Then, once I decide on the final position for the screen, I'll tighten both fasteners with a wrench. But I suspect that will only help solve part of the problem. That's because the joint faces are metal-to-metal, so there isn't a lot of friction to counter the normal vibration of a car in motion. To solve that, I'll use a piece of very thin rubber gasket installed between the screen and the end panel. The friction provided by the gasket won't eliminate the effects of gravity -- the screen will still want to slide down -- but it should keep the sliding from happening.

    It should. But there's a possibility that even the rubber gasket won't be enough. In that case, since I'll already have decided what position the screen should have, I'll fabricate two small angle brackets, one for each side of the hinged end panel. I'll rivet them into place so they hold the bottom of the touchscreen, and the screen settling problem will definitely be solved. Again.
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    As far the wi-fi and GPS, on my setup they both conflicted with each other. I would have constant issues with the GPS not locking on my location, or it would say I was some place I wasnt. One day I decided to unplug my wifi and I had instant lock and the GPS was spot on. When I did my 3rd install, I put the BU-353 to the back of the car, behind one of the panels near a window. The Belkin dongle I put all the way at the front, hidden inside of one of the a-pillars. Havent had any issues since. I will note that I got rid of the Belkin and bought a dongle with wireless N/B/G. Reason I say this is because Belkins dongles never seem to work for me. I had 4 of them, 2 burnt up on me, one stopped working, and the fourth just caused so many issues with my PC. So you may not have the same issues I did. I havent tested the N/B/G dongle, since my install is on hold till next year.

    As far as your screen goes. Most Lilliputs have a dual hole design. The EBY701 has it, and I am sure yours has it too. Basically you would keep the screw you have at the back, to hold the screen to your case, but there should also be a hole at the bottom of the Lilliput to put another screw. When I designed my screen mount, which connects to my big gaint bezel that is half of the dash, lol, I keep having the slidding issues too. Adding a foot for the Lilliput to sit on fixed the issue. Here are pix.

    This is the back:


    This is the bottom of the Lilliput and bezel. Yours should have the same hole at the bottom, its hard to see because I didnt know how to use the macross feature on my camera:


    I also added little feet on the bottom corners so the screen could not move from side to side:


    Here is the whole thing in full. Again sorry for the blurriness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HiJackZX1 View Post
    As far the wi-fi and GPS, on my setup they both conflicted with each other. I would have constant issues with the GPS not locking on my location, or it would say I was some place I wasnt. One day I decided to unplug my wifi and I had instant lock and the GPS was spot on. When I did my 3rd install, I put the BU-353 to the back of the car, behind one of the panels near a window. The Belkin dongle I put all the way at the front, hidden inside of one of the a-pillars. Havent had any issues since. I will note that I got rid of the Belkin and bought a dongle with wireless N/B/G. Reason I say this is because Belkins dongles never seem to work for me. I had 4 of them, 2 burnt up on me, one stopped working, and the fourth just caused so many issues with my PC. So you may not have the same issues I did. I havent tested the N/B/G dongle, since my install is on hold till next year.
    I remembered what you'd written about the conflict in your build, and that precipitated my comments about the potential for conflict in mine. I'll test that and see if there is any.

    My impression is that the GPS head needs to be somewhere it can clearly "see" satellites, and the windshield seems like the best internal location. I chose the waterproof GlobalSat BU-353 specifically so I could run it up on the roof if I need to, but the Scion xB is so low that anyone over 5 feet (~150cm) tall would see the black GPS head standing out on the silver roof. That made inside a better choice. I chose the windshield because it's the only window that isn't effectively vertical.

    The D-Link 802.11b/g/n WiFi head has been very good so far, and it's more forgiving of location than the GPS. If there is conflict, I'll run the cable for the D-Link head to the rear. It seems to me that mounting it inside on a rear window should be pretty good. I'd probably use a clear suction cup with a black tie-wrap to hold the black head to the window. That should be relatively close to invisible from outside the vehicle.

    As a matter of fact, as I write this, I think I may simply go ahead and make that change to the rear window location, instead of mounting it on the mirror. Thanks for the re-direction, Carsten.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HiJackZX1 View Post
    As far as your screen goes. Most Lilliputs have a dual hole design. The EBY701 has it, and I am sure yours has it too. Basically you would keep the screw you have at the back, to hold the screen to your case, but there should also be a hole at the bottom of the Lilliput to put another screw. When I designed my screen mount, which connects to my big gaint bezel that is half of the dash, lol, I keep having the slidding issues too. Adding a foot for the Lilliput to sit on fixed the issue.
    Yes, the Lilliput 889GL comes with the slot and with a hole at the bottom. I used the hole when I had a sliding mounting plate, but it added to the height of the screen. While height won't be an issue, I still want to keep the bottom as clean as possible. If I'm going to have the ability to change the screen angle, added depth would mean allowing for a slot in the bezel to accommodate the attaching bolthead. I'll already have to accommodate the power+data connection wires at the side, but I'm hoping that opening will be pretty much invisible on the black bezel.
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    If just enough is really good, then too much ought to be perfect.

    2006 Scion xB with in-dash Atom & Lilliput 889GL -- Worklog at http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/work...res-links.html
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