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    Quote Originally Posted by freeflashstuff View Post
    HiJack mentioned the crimp-on "thingies"(I can't remember what they're called either), those and my crimp-on quick-(dis)connects are what caused it. I guess since they were old, they didn't do the job, or I didn't crimp them good enough. And, yes the fuse kicked in(15A, same size as the one on the OPUS). That's why I only lost my CF cards rather than the entire MB. The wires came loose when I picked up the box(had it laying in my back seat cause I was too lazy to put it back in the panel) and moved it to get some trash thrown out. I started smelling electrical smoke and... Well, you know the rest.

    But a quick question for rdholtz. My AUX battery back-feeds into my electrical system. If I pull the fuse under the hood, my distro block still has power. I have my constant 12V wire run there, but my real thing is, I need to be able to connect my 8 guage to the relay, but I think it's too big to be able to. How could I do it?
    OMG..... well when it comes to the wires then, ignore my advice. Me, I only used them once and thats to extend a few wires that I didnt measure correctly and they came up short. Other then that I have this very very lengthy process of weaving the slices together, then wrapping with electrical tape. I do alot of going back to add things so that why I never solder. Infact, for my recent rerun under the carpet for my new "finally" rear center console, I had to take alot of wires out. Just be more careful!

    They dont make 8 gauge quick connects?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HiJackZX1 View Post
    Other then that I have this very very lengthy process of weaving the slices together, then wrapping with electrical tape. I do alot of going back to add things so that why I never solder.
    I was once an electrical tape only guy... but I got tired of the static and shorts in my sound system that wire nuts and tape allowed.

    So, a friend taught me how to solder. Once you learn to do it correctly, it is so easy that you will laugh at yourself for twisting wires. Also, it's great for adding length to wire. You cut one too short-- no problem. Grab some heat shrink, slide it way down the line, end-butt (without twist, push the wires into each other, end to end) the wires and apply heat and liquified solder metal... slide the heat shrink up over the joint and warm it up. You no longer have a junction point.

    Once you learn to solder... you will want to learn to weld!!

    Quote Originally Posted by HiJackZX1 View Post
    They dont make 8 gauge quick connects?
    Yes, they do make crimp on's for 8 Gauge... The correct tool for insulated 8 gauge wire is around $100.

    The wire and ends are so big, there is not room to put them on the relay... I've not seen a simple fuse holder for 8 gauge wire, and you MUST have fuse/breakers in line.

    8 Gauge is where you start to see more LUG type connectors instead of crimp on.
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    I wasn't ignoring you -- I just figured it was better to refer your question to Oz, since he's the one who taught me.
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    I figured. I'm making a parts to order list when I get home.
    I have bad luck with vehicles...

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    What size heat shrink would I need? 10-12 guage and 4-8 guage sized, please.
    I have bad luck with vehicles...

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    Quote Originally Posted by freeflashstuff View Post
    What size heat shrink would I need? 10-12 guage and 4-8 guage sized, please.
    If you are soldering 2 x 10 into an 8 you will need the 4-8 shrink. But keep in mind that you may want some 10-12 on the other end where the 10 gauge wires connect to the relays.

    So, i'd buy both.
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    But what size? 1/2" 1/4"? What?
    I have bad luck with vehicles...

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    I can easily fit two 10-gauge wires into a 3/8-inch shrink tube. I don't have any 8-gauge to test, but I'd guess 3/8-inch will do you fine for the 8-gauge into 2x10-gauge; 1/4-inch tube should be fine for the single lines.

    Buying shrink tube at an auto parts store can get expensive. If you can wait for an online purchase, you can get an assortment of sizes of 2:1 shrink tube inexpensively at Harbor Freight. They have two kits that appeal to me, with about the same amount of tubing in them. The $5.99 kit (Item 92300) has 127 short pieces (1-3/8-inch and 2-7/8-inch) of seven sizes from 3/64-inch to 1-inch. It looks like this:


    The $4.99 kit (Item 9639) has 48-inch lengths of five sizes from 1/4-inch to 1-inch, and is probably the more useful kit for my kind of automotive work.

    Almost all of the shrink tube used in my build has been 1/4-inch; my largest wire is 10-gauge.
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    OK, I should have ordered the heat shrink by now, but I haven't. Now I have to make a quick trip to ABQ to the Apple Store because I dropped my iPhone and it killed it. Now I only pray that they will take my warrantee claim...
    I have bad luck with vehicles...

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    They told me it's gonna cost $200 to get my iPhone replaced... I have the option of sending it in to Apple Care or repairing it myself. Option #2 would be the best in my opinion, IF I COULD FIGURE OUT WTF IS WRONG WITH IT! :@

    Back on topic:
    I have put the CarPC part of Turtle on hold until I can save up to get a real SSD. I may go to a flash drive if I get the time to do it, but a real SSD is definitely in the works.
    OTOH: Modding the Turtle itself isn't on hold. Upgrading all of the electrical systems is next on my list(No alternator upgrade for now, just Big 3), followed by sound system upgrade(I'm tired of distorted bass... ) Now, if only some jobs would actually come through for me so I'd have the money to do all of this...
    I have bad luck with vehicles...

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