Help Bugbyte kill his car PC with an iTouch/iPhone install

**Bugbyte** · 03-18-2009, 08:50 AM

I had to fiddle with the settings on my monitor to get it to display the iPod. On my install, I'd buried the buttons inside the bezel and left holes to shove a paperclip through in case I needed to activate them. It took awhile to get it set up right, but I got the iPod to output video to the monitor.

I was pretty underwhelmed. The monitor is an 8" Xenarc with native 800 X 480 resolution. It looks sharp when driven by a VGA signal. Reasonably bright, although not sunlight readable, and good color range.

It has a composite video input for a backup camera. The monitor will automatically switch to the composite input when it detects a signal on that input.

The color was washed out and the text was fuzzy when I displayed it using both ScreenSplitr and TVOut. Not only that, but on the 8" screen it looks like it is stretched vertically.

When I flipped the iPod on its side the image didn't flip like it did on my desktop monitor. Rather than the whole image rolling 90 degrees, it simply displayed sideways so the iPod menu bar was along the right hand side of the monitor. I'm not sure if rolling the image over is a feature or a setting of the Xenarc or my desktop monitor but it wasn't the behavior I expected.

When I played a video out to the screen though, it played full screen and looked NICE! The colors were better and the image didn't have much, if any, noticeable stretching.

All in all, a bit of a disappointment. However, it DOES work and last night I began to fashion a way to connect the iPod onto the dash. I've got a long trip coming up on Thursday, so I'll report back on how it worked then.

**meagain** · 03-18-2009, 01:31 PM

I can't wait to see your pics. I'm puzzled why it would look good with media and bad with apps, etc. Gosh this is frustrating.

**tdub24** · 03-19-2009, 02:53 AM

Bug did u by chance watch the apple 3.0 iPhone os presentation? Apple is opening up Bluetooth for deveopers to make custom profiles. Tell me if Im wrong but someone makes a bt touchscreen controller for net books. That would be perfect. All the other stuff that stands in the way is software rrelated right?

**Bugbyte** · 03-19-2009, 10:27 AM

Yes, I did watch the 3.0 presentation and I thought exactly the same thing! If they open up bluetooth to talk to devices such as a blood pressure monitor, then surely you can talk to devices like touchscreen monitors.

The main question will be whether you can build an app that runs on the iPhone across applications or whether it will be application specific, meaning that you would still have to launch the app from the iPhone screen but could then control it like a conventional front end on a computer.

Do you have any links to the BT touchscreen controller?

**meagain** · 03-20-2009, 04:16 PM

May I jump in with a quick question?

Say one has a car with factory iPod integration (3.5mm & usb). One can simply buy an appropriate screen that supports the $50 apple cable, and plug a 3.5mm into the cars port to the iPhone's headphone jack. Then say, run iPhone's video to the screen and audio to the cars factory amp - and it'll be in sych (hopefully - right?)....

**** My question is - One can also get audio out the bottom of the iPod Touch/iPhone. Is one better quality than the other in such a situation? I was gleaning that it was better out the bottom than the headphone jack. Is that wrong information? Or are they both the same quality in a situation going to a car's amp powering 10 speakers?

Bugbyte - do you think it prudent to hold off on all this till 3-4 months from now when the accessory floodgates open, new firmware, probably new iPods/iPhones, boatloads of bluetooth items, perhaps new cords, etc? I'm leaning that way. I'm also fully buying into the rumor of a multi-touch tablet and and the possibilities with that (and it talking to the iPhone/iPod) with full touch control all over the place.
I just got myself all excited.

**tdub24** · 03-20-2009, 06:16 PM

Www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.19654 that's the Bluetooth Screen digitizer

**tdub24** · 03-20-2009, 06:20 PM

I think that makeing the phone controlable across all apps would be possible due to the fact that sb settings and other programs can pull up anywhere right. I would give the jailbreak community 4 days to figure that one out

**Bugbyte** · 03-21-2009, 05:25 PM

I fashioned a mount for my iPod in the car and used it in conjunction with ScreenSplitr in the car for a 600 mile roundtrip this week.

All in all, the solution works just fine.
- Music sounds great. At least as good or better than the Mac Mini.
- Starting and stopping the car does not cause the iPod to restart
- No crashing or freezing

On the disadvantage side, there are a few problems.
- Controlling the iPod using the touchscreen is very difficult. The iPod interface appears simple and easy to use but requires you to look at it while using it and its small size is bad news for the car. I found using it in the car to be much more difficult than a PC front end. This would be better if you could use a touchscreen or rotary controller to navigate.
- xGPS doesn't display properly when you rotate the iPod sideways. Instead of rolling over, landscape style, you still get a vertical screen and the map turns sideways. You're stuck with just a vertical screen.
- Screen dimming works on the iPod but if you were dumb enough to embed the buttons in the bezel when you fabricated the screen enclosure (that would be me), you can't easily dim the screen when it gets dark.

[No time to finish this. Will post more later]

**meagain** · 03-23-2009, 01:44 PM

Erica Sadun emailed me back regarding upgrading AppFlow to work with the latest firmware. She did it and it will be on Cydia today or tomorrow.

Nice of her to do that given I'm sure she's working hard on 3.0 right now.

**Crinos** · 03-24-2009, 03:55 AM

Originally Posted by Bugbyte

- Screen dimming works on the iPod but if you were dumb enough to embed the buttons in the bezel when you fabricated the screen enclosure (that would be me), you can't easily dim the screen when it gets dark.

with SBS-settings you have a dimmer app where you can adjust settings.
Surly there are others as well, but SBS-settings is a must have for all Jailbroken iPhones