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    Honestly, I never messed with the hold times. All the buttons are presently just set for tapping, and no press and holds. I do not have the JoyCon here to test with at the moment to even mess with it a bit. Sorry....
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    OK, fair enough. I don't use the hold times either etc. But I was curious of the right resistor range to use. Was wondering how to set this? I don't think if I set this too high is it going to damage the Joycon unit or Sony controller. I set it to "5". It works pretty well I guess, but was still concerned. If you have any knowledge of this setting I really appreciate your input. I searched to no end, with no results. Thanx bud.

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    Dash in progress....

    Sorry, I really went no further than to just press the buttons on the controller and assign the keys for it.

    Well, I started digging into the dash of the car now. The dashboard, as stated in the first few posts of this thread, is pretty dated.

    I am in the process of designing a completely custom center console. A friend of mine used to do custom interiors and fiberglass work, and has helped immensely to figure everything out.

    We started with ripping everything out, and playing with cardboard to start with. The mock up face plates were made for the A/C controls, the Head Unit, and the 10" touchscreen for the CarPC, all cut and drawn to scale:

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    Next was to hot glue the individual pieces together and see how the curves, sizes of stuff, and everything lined up.

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    And here it is in the car to see how it all is going to fit into the console when the template is made from materials, and fiber glassed:

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    I still have yet to shorten the shifter, and I swapped out the T-Handle for a Camaro shifter. Also, looking at the photo again, I see the whole console will actually be going towards the front a couple more inches. It is almost butted up against the shifter in the photo.

    I decided to go with the A/C controls on the bottom, as they are pretty shallow, and can go in on that angle. The head unit on the other hand is much deeper, and would not fit on the bottom, unless it was almost level.


    Next will be to take all the measurements of the cardboard pieces and transfer it to the 1/8" door skin I have here. Glue all that together, make final adjustments and then delve into the fiber glassing of everything.

    It's all pretty rough right now, but I am starting to get a picture of it in my head of how it is going to look.

    Ok, it's gonna be a few days before I can get some time to work on it a bit more...... So what to do?

    Fire up Photoshop of course! This is a VERY rough idea of where I am headed. The corners will be rounded in the actual version, but it gives me something visually to work with, and alter from there in the real world.

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    Ok, so that was all done last weekend. I got to thinking if I am doing the center console like that, the rest of the dash is not going to really match, as it all still looks pretty dated.

    A friend of mine, Stuart on the Fiero Forum, was telling me that another member, V8-Archie, that does tons of custom stuff for the Fiero was moving to a smaller shop. I was like.... So! Then he told me he had some prototype dashes that he was working on some time back, and never pursued finishing them. He was selling them off cheap to save space in his new shop.

    I got to looking at some pictures, and wasn't sure about it. They are made to simply fit over the top of the existing Fiero dash with adhesive or Velcro ect. This didn't seem the way I wanted to go.

    The more I thought about it, it finally came to me! I would take that dash cover, and mold it into my original dash! It is a great place to start, instead of doing a new custom dash from scratch. I will put it over the existing dash, and finish off the parts below the A/C vents in fiber glass, as well as other area, to make a complete one piece dash to put back in the car. Designing a dash from scratch would be a nightmare lining up the front with the window, A/C vents, gauge cluster, wiring land switch locations, where to mount and how and MANY other obstacles. Starting with the cover, this will allow me to simply mold it into the existing dash, alter it, fiber glass areas, and what not, then simply mount it back in with the original factory mounting locations. Another advantage is the fact that there is now room to actually have a glove box


    Here is the factory dash. It has a separate gauge cluster, the center console is also separate, and no place for a glove box:

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    Here is the cover that I have ordered, and should be here in a week or so:

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    This is what the cover looks like just set on top of the factory dash. Notice it makes the instrument cluster & center console part of the dash, and not separate structures. There is also room on the right there to add in a glove box.

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    So the plan from here is to attach the 2 together, do some create foam and structure molding, fiberglass it all in, and then upholster it.

    Lots of work, but I am thinking it should really update the interior look of the car!
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    Great!, looking good........that Photo shop pic does show that anything is possible, the Sony controller looks perfect where you put it.

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    Nice on the center console idea. I was so happy with my rear center console build that I decided to make a match for the front also. Well actually the car accident decided that for me. The rear passenger didnt have a seat belt on and when the car was hit, he went flying into it and broke it. So now I am going to redo the rear and add the front to it so its one long center console. Then put the HVAC controls in it to, since I want to add three screens to the dash. Cant wait to see how your turns out.
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    John, I figured out the right settings for resistor range to use with the Sony controller in the JoyconEX software. It's all good now.

    Also, I was wondering if you are using something like this cable and software for your 1986 Fiero GT, being your OB1 not OB2.

    http://www.aldlcable.com/

    http://www.ttspowersystems.com/DataM...downloads.html

    If you are using this combo, how do I use in DFX5? Thanx Bud.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RAWPWR View Post
    Also, I was wondering if you are using something like this cable and software for your 1986 Fiero GT, being your OB1 not OB2.

    http://www.aldlcable.com/

    http://www.ttspowersystems.com/DataM...downloads.html

    If you are using this combo, how do I use in DFX5? Thanx Bud.
    Glad to hear you got the JoyCon working good.

    I am using that cable actually, and have WinALDL software in my CarPC to read the OBDI data. Right now, other than embedding the WinALDL program, that is about as far as it is for working in the skin. Did I say that was the end of the road though? I have been working with some code reading the com port, and am attempting to make sense of the data. The main obstacle is that the Fiero ECM is set to 160 baud. That makes things a bit more difficult. If and when I get that far, a plugin for OBDI will definitely be following shortly
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    JohnWPB: If you need any help with that, I've done extensive programming for ALDL based OBD1 and would be more than willing to share what I know
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    That would be fantastic!!!!!!! Contact me on Yahoo Messenger if you can JohnWPBFL or look for my email addy in MSN Messenger, its JohnWPB at my Gmail<dot>com account. I have some of the source code from WinALDL as a reference on how he works around the 160 baud stuff....
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