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    LIQUID pet. Gas ISN'T?

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    EDIT: In Australia we call fuel, petrol while other country's may call it gas or gasoline. And we call LPG (Liquid Petroleum Gas) what it is, gas.
    Lpg is in liquid form only under pressure (in a container) or at -44 degrees below 0. It (lpg) is only gas when the container holding it has some of the vapor removed (lighting and using what ever its hooked too). At that point the liquid boils and fills the space. This is why all cylinders are only filled to 80% of their capacity even if you are using the liquid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by insaneramman View Post
    Lpg is in liquid form only under pressure (in a container) or at -44 degrees below 0. It (lpg) is only gas when the container holding it has some of the vapor removed (lighting and using what ever its hooked too). At that point the liquid boils and fills the space. This is why all cylinders are only filled to 80% of their capacity even if you are using the liquid.
    Yes that is why cars that run on LPG have a converter that converts the gas into a vapor. After the passing though the converter its piped to the throttle body and is dispersed through a mixer. The mixer acts like a venturie, so the air passing through the mixer ring draws the gas out of the mixer and supply's the engine with a air/gas mix.

    Problem with this setup is its like an old carby setup and the liters per hundred (fuel consumption) is poor compared to petrol.

    Now with the LPG injection I mentioned. The liters per hundred is equaled to petrol and more power is gained. There is still a converter in the setup to convert the liquid into a vapor, But its the separate ECU that I am interested in.

    This ECU is fully programmable so you can tune it once the supercharger or tubo is fitted (have not decided witch way to go yet).

    Im also aware of how LPG tanks are only filled to 80% of there compasity.

    Speaking of tanks I have recently picked up a new stainless steel LPG tank witch I will be replacing soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bemenaker View Post
    Interesting work. That level of conversion is a lot to pull off.
    Thanks for your interest mate, The car has come a long way but I have a lot more plans for it, I would say its 10% done. More conversions and upgrades are in the pipeline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bugbyte View Post
    <Sniff>And for just a fleeting moment, I thought this thread was about my first car - a 1967 Ford Fairlane.

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    Nice fairlane mate, sorry to let you down .

    Our Australian Ford Fairlane was introduced in 1967 and was our first all Australian designed and built ford in Australia. All previous Falcons and Fairlanes were American models brought over to Australia in pieces and assembled here.

    Quote from another site.

    First generation (19671972)
    The ZA series, introduced in March 1967, was designed and built in Australia although it resembled the American Fairlane sedan of that year. Offered as the Fairlane and the Fairlane 500, it was essentially a stretched version of the Falcon XR Series, but used an American bodyshell. The body was lengthened through the rear door area. It was equipped with either a 200 cu. in six or a 289 cu. in V8, the smaller engine available with manual or automatic transmission and the V8 only with an automatic.

    This is a pic of one.




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    Cool Sounds like fun!

    So as I understand it you WON'T be using a vaporizer, it will be direct injection. Ford advertised a Propane powered truck about a year ago. You might find some specs to help with your plan there or use it just to get some ideas. You seem to have educated yourself well on the subject of propane power. As I said about the truck I have seen those, a car though is a different breed of animal. My interest will be to see how you mount the tank, how you'll fill it, and what you'll do about the relief valve (mounting in the trunk/boot WILL NOT be SAFE).
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    Seeing as how we are on the topic of Fairlanes, here is one that I used to have. It was powered by a 393 ci Windsor.

    Data911 M5 system
    RR and iGo8PC
    Pioneer head unit
    Pioneer DEQ-9200 digital processor
    Phoenix gold line drivers
    Ultimate and Visonik amplifiers
    SMT 3 way active front stage
    Digital Design sub woofers
    3 runs of 0 gauge wire

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    wow.

    thats all i can, on the less is more basis, you brought me out of lurker ville to post...

    love your work, its a challenge you have done well with.

    All the best with it, i will be watching.

    I'm sure a fair few on the uk forums would love to have seen this.
    Lez, more widely known as flez1966

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    Quote Originally Posted by insaneramman View Post
    So as I understand it you WON'T be using a vaporizer, it will be direct injection. Ford advertised a Propane powered truck about a year ago. You might find some specs to help with your plan there or use it just to get some ideas. You seem to have educated yourself well on the subject of propane power. As I said about the truck I have seen those, a car though is a different breed of animal. My interest will be to see how you mount the tank, how you'll fill it, and what you'll do about the relief valve (mounting in the trunk/boot WILL NOT be SAFE).
    Um, what do you mean by vaporizer? If you are refereeing to the converter then yes it still has a converter that converts the gas to vapor . there are a seccond set of injectors installed on the fuel injection manifold and the vapor is injected right into the manifold. the car still runs on petrol (gas in usa) but its there for starting purposes only.

    Its LPG vapor injection and many cars in Australia have it installed. About a third of all Australian cars are in fact duel fuel (gas and petrol).

    Most cars have a LPG filler behind the petrol filler door, next to where you fill your car with petrol (gas as you call it in the usa).

    80% of cars fitted with LPG in australia have the tanks in the boot (trunk in american) pushed up behind the back seat bolted to the floor.

    Ford Australia sell a Falcon that runs on LPG only its called Egas model, witch is what I am assuming you guys call propane.

    But yeah Im not sure now, buy what your saying with asking me how I will go about mounting the tank, Im under the impression that there is no duel fuel cars in USA?

    Because there are so many cars on gas (propane) here, there are tanks made to be installed in specific cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lez View Post
    wow.

    thats all i can, on the less is more basis, you brought me out of lurker ville to post...

    love your work, its a challenge you have done well with.

    All the best with it, i will be watching.

    I'm sure a fair few on the uk forums would love to have seen this.

    Thanks for you nice comments guys. Change of heart, I am now saving up for a new car! the car I will end up buying is a 2004 BA Falcon. This model falcon has what we call a premium sound system witch includes a lcd screen with a av input for gps.

    My intention will be to install a car pc and use the factory screen. I will be buying a base model and installing parts for the premium sound from the upmarket model along with other improvements. stay tuned for when I buy my new car.

    Cheers

    Josh

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    Have a look at djmickyg's car. He has a BA. Link: 2007 Ford Falcon XR6 Turbo UTE
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