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    For sure, I'm still not 100% convinced its the alternator, I've read other things can lead to improper charging situations. I haven't had the time yet to tear into it, but I suppose I'll go take some readings with a multimeter before I actually pull it out. Not sure exactly what the proper technique for that is, but from what I gather I want to take a reading from the alternator terminals both running and off (but key on.)

    Either way I'd still like to upgrade the alternator to something more capable. Did you notice any performance loss once you switched yours out? Did you upgrade all the cabling to larger gauge? Suppose I should go read that post you mentioned again.
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    Small Update,

    I glassed in a support bracket for the external DVD

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    The switch "box" was pulled from the mold and a brushed metal coloured plexi-glass plate was made for it. Now the box has to be glassed in from the bottom.

    Here it is just sitting on in the hole from the top:

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    And a added a little more glass & re-sanded to minimize the use of body fill and thereby reduce the chance of cracking. Most areas will only require a very very light skim coat:

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    @SierraStroker: if your not convinced the alternator is the issue then pull it off (easy on the 7.3, I did one of my 7.3's right in the parking lot of a re builder several years ago)and get a parts store to check it for you or better yet, get a proper AVR test done at a garage and be sure of what's going on before replacing parts. I didn't notice much difference when I installed my HO alternator on this truck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilG View Post
    @SierraStroker: if your not convinced the alternator is the issue then pull it off (easy on the 7.3, I did one of my 7.3's right in the parking lot of a re builder several years ago)and get a parts store to check it for you or better yet, get a proper AVR test done at a garage and be sure of what's going on before replacing parts. I didn't notice much difference when I installed my HO alternator on this truck.
    In addition: before removing alternator disconnect the battery. There is no fuse, and some bad things may happen in case the "+" terminal touches to the wrong place. We all know that, but sometime we all get lazy - don't be lazy, it may cost you $1000+ in case you burn the "right thing".
    Some more: Use tools with rubber handles. The reason: same as previous
    I've been "recalled" these lessons in the expensive way, no matter that "hell, we all know that". So man, don't be lazy - be safe!
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    Finally Past The F\G stage

    Only got a few hours this weekend unfortunately to play in the garage but here is the progress:

    Glassed in the switch box.... :

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    and finished sanding the glass:

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    Got everything out to start filling:

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    Got a quick coat on the rear tray, took the cheese grater to it, added a little bit more filler and gave it a quick sand. That was it. A little more work on this one then the main console which is in much better shape surface wise so it should go fairly quickly.

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    One evening this past week I made the decision the amps are not going to hang on the side of the sub box as I will not be using the 2 Infinity amps currently in play. Their replacements are quite different. So instead I decided to take the space that was originally allocated for them and cut in some windows to show the sub working. I little bit "tuner-ish", I know, but I will try to finish it off tastefully.

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    I recessed the window into the MDF from the inside.

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    When I was done, I just threw some LED's into it loose to get some ideas.

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    I'm not sure what will get done this week coming up, it's going to be a very busy week & weekend.
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    Looks great! Can't wait to Owen a house with a garage. Apartment living is not good for diy'ers. I want to get back to this kind of work.

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    Hi PhilG,

    Just a quick note, I'm getting the fork seals replaced on my motorbike on Thursday so I can get back to riding it. When I save some more cash I will get the front brake discs replaced. One expense after the other, but I'm getting there.

    Good to see you are making some progress on your project, looking good so far.
    I wish I had your set-up and equipment to play with, not to mention your skills with fabrication.

    As for me, I've kind of shelved the carputer for the moment as I am still trying to figure out how to mount the monitor without doing any cutting or drilling. I want to keep everything in my car original, being somewhat of a purist in that regards. Do you remember the clip on mount I used in the other car? It clipped into the gap above and below the centre air vent. Unfortunately they don't make one for this car. I know I could use a windscreen suction mount but I really don't like, or trust, those things.

    The picture below shows the centre console of my car. As you can see there isn't enough room to fit an in-dash monitor. I've been thinking of using my single din space for a flip up monitor such as the Xenarc 700IDT in Mp3car's store but then I wouldn't have the head unit to provide the audio and AM/FM radio. You may remember I was using a PLL FM Stereo Modulator to feed the audio from the carputer to the head unit when I had it installed in my other car. I planned on doing the same with this car to save spending cash I don't have on amps etc. The fact is I don't have the cash to buy the Xenarc either, see first paragraph.

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    Anyway, enough of my problems. Keep up the good work and take care.

    Cheers, Neil
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    @latinmaxima: A garage and lots of tools does help, no doubt. Working in the parking lot of an apt building definitely would make it more challenging. Good reality check for me to stop wining to my wife that the garage is too small (it is for the truck) but at least I'm indoors.

    @Berber: Sad to hear you've shelved the carPC but I understand the desire to getting the bike safe first, I've had several bikes in the past and no 4 wheeler can replace the desire to ride. Maybe once the bike is safe and ride able, you will be able to focus on the carPC. Beautiful dash in that classic Benz, I agree cutting it up would be a shame but I'm sure once the money is there and you focus on it, other solutions will present themselves.

    I should be able to get back at my console at some point this week.
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    As I said above "I should be able to get back at my console at some point this week"......just remove the words "...this week...". Better late then never is what they say, I sure hope that is true.

    So I finished filling it and blocked it out, nasty job I must say but it's in good shape now.

    So time to sand the primer and see how I did. Plus I need to fit it to the dash and see if the top front edge needs to be shaped to fit.

    I THINK I can be ready for paint by the weekend. Then I have to get back to the actual PC, it's been sitting on a desk since January. Plus the amps & screen are out of the truck, I need to gut the interior, get the 100 plus feet of sound Dampener in and install everything. The sub box with windows needs to get finished up, so still lots to do.

    Ready for Primer:
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    I'm still thinking medium wedgewood blue to match the exterior. I wish I could see it first, but that's not how it works.
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    Hi PhilG,

    Wow!! Its amazing the difference it has made even with just a coat of primer. Seeing it all one colour makes your console look so professional. I can't wait to see the final paint job. How are the door speaker mods progressing?

    I am making some progress with my carputer but in a different direction. I have been converted to the benefits of windscreen suction mounts after trying one my brother loaned to me. Its a RAM Mount and I have added to it an arm and iPad cradle to see how I can use my recently aquired iPad in the car. I bought the Sygic navigation app so I can use the iPad as a GPS device and some music files to listen to. I can choose to feed the audio from the iPad to the headunit, via the PLL modulator, or use it's own speaker so I can listen to music from the headunit's AM/FM tuner or CD player. I still have the Bury handsfree phone kit which mutes the audio from the headunit when a call comes in. Because I haven't had the carputer in this car I have been using my Garmin Zumo 550 to get me to places I don't know so setting up the iPad instead is no different in this regard. The audio from the Zumo has failed which is what prompted to use the iPad as a GPS in the first place. This is phase one and so far I am happy with how it works.

    Phase two will be installing the actual carputer and setting it up as a media server controlled by the iPad. iPads don't have enough storage. I'll have Logitech Media Server and SqueezePlay running on the carputer and I bought the iPeng app for the iPad. I installed a Wi-Fi card in the carputer so that the iPad can connect to it. My brother was inspired by my carputer to build one for his car. He in turn inspired me to go down this track instead of using front-end software, etc., only he is using his iPhone. He has a fancy double din headunit with built-in GPS and a touchscreen in a Mitsubishi Outlander. I'm not exactly sure how his set-up works, its more complex than mine will be. There may be a phase three where I discover other uses for the carputer and/or iPad. Its a constantly evolving thing and a learning curve.

    Good luck with your project. Its great to see you are still slogging away at it and making progress. Thats all from me for now.

    Cheers, Berber
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    Could The End be in Sight for the Console???

    Berber, thanks for the update, an Ipad sounds like a great option, no hacking up the dash of the Benz.

    I might actually finish this console in this decade. I had some free time so I am putting a push on the console to get it finished and installed.

    The console is straight but will need one last shot of primer to take the marks out and to double check the surface before paint. That has to wait until everything else is done. It's much easier to work on everything when you don't have to worry about putting a few marks in it.

    So time to create hardware mounts so all of the components are not just "thrown in the box" this time.

    I decide to take a "module" approach similar to adding expansion cards to a tower PC. Easy to add and easy to remove if needs change.

    Here they are:

    Left to right: Power Board - Sound - Hubs - Sirius

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    Here the boards are installed in the console, each is easily removed via friction fit, or 1-2 screws:

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    And now the with CB installed, not a lot of room to spare. The H701 controller is not there but it is a fraction of the size of the CB so no issue for space.

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    The area under the storage bucket will house all power supply components including the fuse panel. The DVD & a side storage pocket will be in there too. Again the space is well used but not so tight as to restrict ventilation:

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    Here it is with all of the pieces installed, still OK for ventilation:

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    This is how I handled the switch panel due to the bright red LED tips on the 6 switches; I added a smoked, spring loaded flip up cover to mute the light and keep dirt out.

    Tweaking the leading edge of the console took a lot of time to get it matched to the dash contour. It does fit perfect to the dash though.

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    I also added a dbl switch, one is on-off the other is momentary, this will be perfect for PC valet & reset.

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    Here is everything assembled on the bench. Next up will be mocking up the whole assembly in the truck and figuring out how I am going to finish off the exposed sides of the sub box:

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    Thanks for looking!!
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