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    It's been awhile since I updated as not a lot has happened, things have been kind of busy for the last few weeks. I did get a few hours to start working on the design of the centre console and have decided it needs to run right to the back seat in order to achieve the required air space for the sub plus room for the other equipment.

    I did buy GMPC software only, and installed it with NickMack's integration plugin for CF and I have to say it works beautifully. It makes GMPC look like it came with CF, it mutes the music perfectly and the guidance quality is 10x better than "Destinator" that came with CF. I can truly say "Destinator" is trash at least for North America.

    The other interesting thing is that I am not using Xport anymore and I have had 0 issues with GMPC picking up the GPS antenna port. It works every time.
    The only negative I have found is the guidance voice - "Microsoft Mary" she's painful to listen to.

    I have put over 10,000KM on the truck since July with the PC in it and it is working beautifully. What an improvement from the Alpine W205 that came out of the truck.
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    Project segment 4 & 5 - Console & Amp Rack Construction

    The project is moving forward quite well, I thought I should update on my progress.

    I have revised my original plan of mounting the amps behind the rear seat. This change was mainly caused by the fact that I could not get the required air space for the sub box to fit in a front seat console plus leave room for the carputer, etc.
    So the board held an emergency meeting and all of the members (I) decided the console would get extended back to the rear seat. That opened up new possibilites for amp mounting and left me with the factory storage space behind the back seat which is great. The rear middle seat is seldom used but could still be used in a pinch. The persons legs would have to swing left or right.

    I did not want to create an MDF box for the console, I wanted to do a console primarily from fiberglass so a 1x1 pine frame/ fabric skeleton fit the bill.

    I did want the deep solid sound of an MDF box for the sub woofer though as well as the ability to rebuild the sub box to accommodate a different driver so a hybrid design of both a MDF sub box inside a Fiberglass console seemed to make sense.

    I have not seen any examples to other people combining the 2 design/build techniques so I really have no way of knowing whether I can achieve a great look & sound from it but I guess that's what the challenge will be.

    The pine 1x1 structure for the front section of the console



    The separate Sub Box built from 3/4" MDF housing a 12" RD Sonance driver (this is a very good SQ sub but can still make your head hurt). I achieved approx. 1.5 ft of unloaded air space in this box which should be perfect. Unfortunately the box had to widen by 1.5" at the back in order to accommodate the 12" sub. This will present clearance problems as you will see later for the amps.





    Here is the sub box integrated into the console. It is not attached in any way and only has a fraction of an inch clearance on each side of the console frame.



    Amp clearance for the 2 main amps is very tight with relation to the front seats. They had to be mounted "randomly" on an angle to fit so I will have to work with that "theme" as I finish it off. The 2 smaller amps and processor will be buried.



    The rear of the console will tie into the under rear seat compartment.



    Under the rear seat will house a 1500watt inverter and all of the distribution blocks & heavy Gage wiring. Both of the large amps will have their power connections pointed towards the rear and all low level inputs pointed towards the front into the console. This should help minimize noise.



    That's it for now. I am currently working on flushing the distro blocks into the panel under the rear seat then I will go back to working on the main console.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilG View Post
    The rear middle seat is seldom used but could still be used in a pinch. The persons legs would have to swing left or right.
    Or both, one leg to each side depending on (flowing) wardrobe? Will the sub be blowing into the passenger too? Oh my...was that the plan all along?


    Seriously though, I'm not sure Pine is a good choice for framing. AFAIK pine is a noisy wood to use in the car, that's why miners use them for support, it creeks when it's about to fail. But maybe that's just on the limit, so I don't know.

    I would use whatever wood they use on RVs, they sure worry about noises and I think there is something you can use where your console meets the dash too. I would fix the console with big screws/mounts to the floor too, but this is in the works? I suppose the sub box will be rigidly fixed eventually?

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    I haven't been on here regularly in a while but great to see another person installing a PC in one of these trucks.

    I have had mine in for about a year now and it has been working great. I have road runner and iguidance but ended up doing the same thing as you with Xpor and things work good, didn't really have a secondary need for the antenna anyways with road runner.

    The console is looking pretty good, I have hopes of maybe doing a similar one sometime in the future, for now I modded a console from an 08 super duty to hold my 12" sub, the box is a little small for yours though at 0.93ft^3 with 7" of mounting depth and still 4" of storage in the top.


    I'm most certainly going to be following the rest of your progress
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    treetop777:

    Thank you for the encouragement!


    RipplingHurst:

    Yes, there may be times were the middle back seat could get interesting.

    The sub is downfiring. I had a temporary box in there prior that fired down and it sounded very good. I will need to figure out how to install a reflective baffle on the floor. Firing into carpet is not ideal.

    The pine framing is irrelevant once the box is glassed, it's just there to hold the fabric for glassing in fact alot of it will get cut out if it's in the way of components.

    Everything will be fastened to the truck were needed to ensure a solid fit.


    jdc753:

    I read your worklog, you did a great job on your truck. I may look at a 10" screen fab'd into the dash after the main project is done, I have a spare bezel to work with.
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    Filling/ Sanding Underseat Compartment

    Well. Not as interesting or as much fun as framing but it has to be done. I cracked open the gallon of Rage Gold and got to it.

    I spent last evening finishing up the trim panel to flush the distro blocks and filling/sanding the face of the underseat compartment. I had an issue with the top portion of the opening for the power invertor so I removed it and I will deal with it later. Maybe it should be open for airflow anyways.



    The one small ground block on the left needs to be raised and the panel needs to be scuffed for paint plus there is a couple of low spots on the face that could use a little more attention but other than that, it's ready for a high build primer & paint. I'm still trying to decide if I want to spend any more time improving the "flush" look of the blocks. I tried a round-over with the router and didn't like the look of that so.... we'll see.



    Thanks for looking.
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    Rear Under Seat Comparment Finished

    Well, I basically have the area under the rear seat finished, just a few components to move once the console is finished and a bit of trimming out later. Here is how I finished it:

    After filling and sanding I shot primer at it and painted it. For now, I primed it with a gun and real high build primer but I just used a rattle can of interior paint I had left around the garage. When everything is done and I have decided on the color scheme, I want to base + clear everything. Some of it may wind up vinyl, I don't know until I see everything done.



    So I layed out the distro blocks and started the 1 Gage wiring first



    I used a piece of copper pipe to create a junction block for the 1 Gage ground







    I also double checked the fit of the inverter. The face cracked from lack of support while detached from the seat but I need to make a trim bezel to go around the invertor anyways so no point in fixing it.



    I started to add the 4 Gage wiring:



    I had to route some channels in the underside of the trim plate to accommodate some of the wires. These areas will get caught on the final paint.



    Here is the rack installed back in the truck. The silver box under the distro blocks is the processor which will wind up being removed along with alot of the wires you see out on the floor. This stuff will end up in the console eventually.



    Most of these wires will be removed and any left will be hidden in the console as it will come Right back and make contact with this rack. Those holes you see in the front will end up being hidden as well behind the console.



    Here is the trim plate installed. I will fab something up to connect the seat bottom fabric to the trim panel to close the gap where you can see the wires.



    This block has a voltage readout and 4 glass fuses lit up. VERY BRIGHT. But easy to fix, if it's bothering me at night, I can just flip the seat base down. An alarm will sound if any of the 4 fuses fail.



    Here it is with the seat base down. Again those 2 sets of holes for wiring will be hidden in the console when it gets installed.

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    While repainting everything, I will probably paint the seat base floor mounts grey to match.


    So I am now ready to finish the console
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilG View Post


    While repainting everything, I will probably paint the seat base floor mounts grey to match.


    So I am now ready to finish the console

    Great work, I have been contemplating moving my amps and computer below the seat, mostly for sake of reworking things and I really like how yours came out, looks perfect in this view, and great with the seat open too showing all the pieces.
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    jdc753, I think you are going to struggle to get enough room under the seat for those 2 beautiful Sundown amps you have plus your PC. I was not able to put my 2 Infinities under there, not even close.
    At first glance, it looks like there should be a ton of room but when you get looking at the seat leg separating the single seat from the double and the various humps in the floor, it's not pretty.
    As I stated early in my build, my plan was for amps under seat but only one would fit.
    Thats the problem with these trucks, they have the largest cab in the industry other than the Mega cab but they made sure all of the space went to leg room, not storage room.
    Behind the seat works great, but if you want a little show from the amps, thats hard to do too, because they have to be mounted at floor level due to the slope of the seat back. Clearance near the top is all but non existent to raise the amps up.
    On my last install, I had the rear seat lifted and moved forward but that makes the seat belts almost too short and leg room access into he back gets cramped.

    I guess the final answer is throw the rear seat on ebay and really go for it!!!
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