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Thread: 2006 Acura TL w/Navigation Carputer Worklog

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    Post 2006 Acura TL w/Navigation Carputer Worklog

    ***DISCLAIMER***
    I in no way know much about carputers or electronics, I did all this through reading and researching and trial and error. So if you ask a question in regards to your own equipment I might not be able to answer you. Sorry.

    Hey i'm a long time lurker and my first time working on a carpc. I'm pretty busy so i'll update you when I can and be as detailed and thorough as possible. I will provide links to everything I talk about or try too.

    Here are the specs:
    - Dell Inspiron e1505 Dual Core with 1gb memory using Windows XP SP3 Optimized (thanks to custommx3 for the link [Tweakhound XP tweaking guide....] - Direct link - [http://tweakhound.com/xp/xptweaks/supertweaks1.htm]
    - Ride Runner Front End with Translucent Simplistic Front End (I'm a newb at Ride Runner so a really big learning curve.)


    My plans:
    I plan on integrating the laptop to my existing navigation system (not like met152 where he used a usb and installed it to the back of the navigation system [CLICK HERE FOR MET152, a little less advance), extend the power switch from the laptop to the front and a switch for hibernate (more on that in a sec). To click on the links in the Ride Runner I plan on using a Rii Mini Keyboard with touchpad to do that (If the picture doesn't show go to Amazon.com and search for Rii Mini).


    How am I going to do this?
    I am using something called Navigation Multi Audio-Video Switcher System from AVElectronics which allows me to tap into the Navigation System through plug-n-play. The system has 4 inputs and 4 outputs and 3 camera inputs (1 is for backup camera)

    It has a S-Video port I can used for my laptop for carputer setup.


    Things I've already done:
    1. Installed the Navigation Multi Audio-Video Switcher System from AVElectronics (Sorry no pictures)
    2. Installed backup camera
    3. Installed 2 DVD Players
    4. Optimized Windows XP
    5. Installed Ride Runner with Transparent Simplistique II Skin
    6. Modify power settings in Windows for the Dell E1505 Laptop so that when I close the lid it hibernates and when I press the power button it will shutdown.
    7. Extended the power button and Lid Switch with 20' of Cat5 cable.


    Here are some of the modifications I've done that may help others. Remember this is only for the Dell Inspiron E1505 It may be different from your laptop

    Modify power settings in Windows
    Goto Control Panel and open up the Power Options, under the Advance tab here is my setup:

    Power Button
    When I close the lid of my portable computer: HIBERNATE
    When I press the power button on my computer: SHUT DOWN
    When I press the sleep button on my computer: STANDBY (this one I didn't care about because I wasn't going to use it.)


    and of course enable hibernation under the Hibernate tab


    ALARMS - Not tested, just a theory since my laptop batteries are completely drain and wont charge.
    The Alarms section allows me to imitate shutting down my laptop or put it into hibernation when I turn off my car. The theory is when I turn off my car the laptop batteries kick in. The alarm is setup so that when my batteries falls below 95% it will be forced to go into hibernation (you can choose standby or hibernation as well). There you have it auto hibernation based on using a feature called alarms.



    Extended the power button and Lid Switch with 20' of Cat5 cable
    Thanks to Mofo (and his horrible camera phone pictures) I was able to do this mod [CLICK HERE FOR MOFO THREAD]. I cut about 20' of cat5 cable. I believe that is all I needed to run in my car. I needed only 4 wires (2 for my power switch and 2 for my lid switch) My power switch had 4 pads and using Mofo pictures I tested pin 1 and pin 3 and that worked off the bat. In regards to the color wires used, it doesn't matter which ones you picked, for my project I just picked the Blue, Blue/White, Orange, Orange/White. I hooked up the blue wire to switch pad 1, and the Blue/White to switch pad 3 (does not matter which color wire you choose as long and you use them on the other end of the cat5 cable). If you followed my setup in regards to the power options above. This allowed me to turn on my laptop as well as shutdown my laptop (Waiting on a new laptop battery to test the Alarm function). I thought this was a very cheap option. See image below.




    The next two wires (remember it can be any wires other then the ones that were used for the power switch, in my case it was orange and white w/orange stripe), I hooked it up to the lid switch. Orange to the red wire and White with Orange Stripe to the black wire. See image below.




    Now here is the purpose of the 4 wires. Extending the power switch gave me the ability to turn on and shutdown my laptop, while extending the lid switch allowed me to hibernate my laptop.

    Til next time. I hope I was detailed. If not ask me and i'll explain further.

    On order, USB GPS, DC to DC Power supply. Need these items so I can finally place the laptop in my car.

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    Post Modifying and extending the power switch on a Dell e1505 Laptop using Cat5

    So my next task was modifying the the 20' Cat5 cable so that there is a quick disconnect. This allows me to disconnect my laptop from the cat5 so that I can work on the laptop in the house instead of in the car. Just making my life simple. I used stuff I had lying around the house for this mod.

    TOOLS USED
    1. RJ45 Crimp Tool
    2. RJ45 Male Modular Plug
    3. RJ45 Female Modular Jack
    4. Digital Multimeter
    5. Solder Gun
    6. Solder
    7. Electrical Tape or Shrink Tube


    Modular Plug and Modular Jack


    STEP 1: Add the plug to the cat5 cable

    First thing was from the cat5 cable connect to the laptop I left about 1 foot of cat5 cable and cut there. I hooked up the Male Jack to the end of the Cat 5 cable that was recently cut that is not connect to the laptop. The 1 foot wire connect to the laptop I will be hooking up the Female Modular Jack (this was my preference you can do it the other way). I didn't follow the standards of putting the wires according to the Networking rules (you can as long as you align the wires correctly to the modular jack as well). I grouped it by color so for the following pins


    Pin 1: Blue
    Pin 2: Blue/White
    Pin 3: Orange
    Pin 4: Orange/White
    Pin 5: Green
    Pin 6: Green/White
    Pin 7: Brown
    Pin 8: Brown/White

    Here it is connected


    STEP 2: Determining the location of the Pins
    I had a tough time searching the web to find the pin positions on the Female Modular Jack so the next best thing was to test each pin with a multimeter. On your multimeter set it to the following:

    This setting sends out a beeping noise when the negative and positive are touching. In short I touch the blue wire on the cat5 at the end of the 20' wire and each of the pins on the Female Modular Jack until I heard a sound. If you choose not to want to learn this on your own below is a picture with the pin outs on the Female Modular Jack.



    STEP 3: Soldering the pins to the Female Modular Jack
    Now that you know the pins, it time to solder.


    Another image where I bent the 20' Cat 5 cable so that it is straight.



    STEP 4: Finishing the disconnect.

    I used electrical tape instead of shrink tube, because I didn't have any shrink tube.


    STEP 5: Adding a monetary switch to the other end of the cat5

    I didn't get too much details on hooking this up, each of the switch had two pins so all I did was connect the blue and blue/white wire (power switch) to one of the switches, and the orange and orange/white wires (lid switch) to the other switch. For now these switches will do. I'm hoping to find some better ones that have leds in them (any suggestions)

    Here are some pictures (I will probably need to do a new housing for the switches because one of them turned out horrible, can't be seen in picture




    STEP 6: The End Product




    Now my quick disconnect it ready. Next is to run the wires in my car. Still waiting for my DC to DC adapter and GPS before putting that in my car.

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    Running Wires

    Well no much to say here, just running wires getting it ready so that when my parts come in I can install everything with ease. However, I do need to think about how I will mount the laptop.















    Finished:
    In this picture you can see where I messed up on the switch. It doesn't give a clean look so i will do it again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nguyen220 View Post
    I plan on integrating the laptop to my existing navigation system (not like met152....
    Maybe you do not know, but there is a product of (GA-Net +) for PC PnP installations in Honda \ Acura with a navigation system Alpine.
    Quote Originally Posted by nguyen220 View Post
    It has a S-Video port I can used for my laptop for carputer setup.
    S-Video to RGBs? This is not the best solution. You can adjust the VGA OUT ATI Radeon X1300 on the display performance navigation systems without additional transformations!

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    Redoing the switch and adding LEDs

    Well i didn't like the way the switches looked so I got some new switches (smaller and more flush mounted) from radio shack and will be redoing it, im just waiting on my order from Acura to come in because they didn't have any of the lid covers in stock.

    While working on the switches, i realized that I didn't know if my laptop powered on or not or when the power was off before I turned off my car (Update: no worries now because I just got my battery) so I got to thinking why not add in LEDs for the power switch and hard drive LEDs. First thing was to find out where the LEDs were and what was + and -. Next was I needed to run wires to the front. The good thing was I was using a cat5 cable and only 4 out of the 8 wires were used. So I used the other 4 (2 for the power switch LED, and 2 for the hard drive LED) for the LEDs.

    Location of the LEDs (Top is the power switch LED, bottom is the Hard Drive LED)


    Zoomed out


    Afterwards, I wanted to reroute the wires to make it look a little more clean so I drilled a hole on the side of the laptop and ran the wires through there.



    I believe I will be more please this way and now I will have room to include atlease 2 usb port below the switches (meaning I will need to run another cat5 cable for the usbs. Sorry no pictures yet just thinking on what I will be doing.

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    I saw the GA-NET+ at http://tempgp.com and would be a very good option, but the way i'm doing mine it cost me less than $200 + my labor. The GA-NET+ is anywhere from $800-$1000 and that is not within a budget I wish to spend.

    Quote Originally Posted by slden View Post
    Maybe you do not know, but there is a product of (GA-Net +) for PC PnP installations in Honda \ Acura with a navigation system Alpine.

    S-Video to RGBs? This is not the best solution. You can adjust the VGA OUT ATI Radeon X1300 on the display performance navigation systems without additional transformations!

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    nguyen220,

    I agree with slden. You have too many components in your set up. The GA-Net+ is a better way to go. Check out my project here: http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/show...avigation.html . The GA-Net+ works with Honda and Acura products.

    DominicanJB

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    got my parts from acura and got to redoing the switches with the leds (right switch is the power button, and left button is for hibernate/standby).

    it turned out pretty good and i'm pretty satisfied. i will probably add 1 or 2 usb below the switches as well.

    here is how it looks.


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    it's been awhile since I posted. Since then I have extended a usb port to the switches and added a usb hub to the back. Sorry no real details of how I did it. I just ran wires and that is pretty much self explanatory.

    USB port in the front below the switches


    USB hub

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    After extending the USB ports, I started reading more about remote controllers which brought my attention to the JoyCon EX and the Sony RM-X11M and found this thread by extraaha (Thanks) here http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/inpu...er-car-pc.html.

    I thought it would be a good addition and order the parts from ebay.

    Using extraaha detailed information of how to hookup the controller to the JoyCon as seen below


    Here are pictures of the items I ordered

    JoyCon EX


    Sony RM-X11M


    then....using extraaha diagram I connect the JoyCon EX to the Sony RM-X11M



    then...I used a computer power supply to power the Sony RM-X11M for testing. Here it is before power up



    now powered up

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