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    Always pays to check, I haven’t had a chance with the new install yet. BTW, apparently MS did a fudge and removes the Windows screen before the OS has fully shut down, just to make it look faster. This would explain why my PSU takes a few seconds longer to power down after Win7 kills the video and “appears” to have shutdown.

    Anyway, found this on the Net. “Enter Phoenix’s new Instant Boot BIOS. It cuts down the post time to roughly one second.”

    1 second post + my 7 to 8 seconds Win-7 load time, wow. Only one problem with the 7 second cold boot (after post) into windows, some of the USB com port device drivers are not ready, I had to delay port opening by a few hundred ms in the FE (actually I now poll them until they open). Only on a cold boot, Hibernate is fine so it’s not hardware initialization, its device driver initialization; even Garmin GPS software has trouble with the USB mouse driver if Garmin-PC is loaded too quickly by my FE.
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    Ok, fully automated Sleep, Hibernate or Suspend when leaving the vehicle.

    One button push or an FE menu Click for Hibernate, then turn the car off and go.
    The M4 is made to stop its Hard-off timer and +5 standby voltage is automatically dropped.

    For Sleep mode, just turn the vehicle off and go. Standby +5v is now on for the M4 programmed time.

    Now I'm in full control of how long the vehicle PC sleeps and draws power or when it hibernates and consumes none.


    BTW: Resume from hibernate (after bios post) is now 5.8 seconds with 2GB of ram, 7 seconds with 4GB. I time loaded as - FE displaying and music playing and in exactly the same state as prior to entering sleep.
    Last edited by Mickz; 09-27-2011 at 08:23 PM. Reason: added info
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    OMFG! Such a impressive system! Its amazing how you created all this stuff!

    Do you do all your own metal work? Its obvious you do all your circuit work. I don't know if you've seen my work log, but I want to build panels that have a head phone jack, USB port, toggle switch to change the USB port from PC 1 to PC 2 and vis versa, and finally three small push buttons that control Mini-Pac units (These control the KVMP units which allow you to switch from PC 1 and PC 2, without having a whole keyboard connected.). Maybe you can build them for me, I would of course compensate you. Your panels are just so impressive!
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    This is super work. I'm digging the dash.

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    Gday Mick,
    I apologise as you have probably mentioned it already but there is so much awesome information I couldn't find it.
    What language / libraries or tools are you using to write your front end. I am used to web programming so not really sure what to pick but I think your interface has turned out really well and so would like to borrow some ideas

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by HiJackZX1 View Post
    OMFG! Do you do all your own metal work? Your panels are just so impressive!
    Hi again and thanks for the kind words, I have to do everything myself, it costs too much any other way.

    I had a look at your work log a week or so ago. Great work also, but it’s amazing how quickly these installs become complicated – mine included of course. I try to read as many work logs as I can as they are home to a lot of good info and a great source for ideas.

    One of the best things you can learn to do is to program a Microcontroller. It makes interfacing basic buttons and car sensors pretty easy to do. Problem is it takes a few weeks to get the hang of it, although some of the latest hobby devices that are programmed in simple basic commands built into the device make it really easy to get going in few days or less at minimal cost.

    The harder part for beginners IMHO is interfacing to the OS and FE.

    The panel finish in the centre console fe-Drive is made exactly the same way as I started 15 years ago for the electronic things I built. I make the panel with basic hand tools and roughly finish it.

    I mount the controls and draw around the outline of the knobs and switches, then mark where each control movement starts and finishes and/or the indents positions of rotary switches etc on the panel.

    I remove the controls and scan the blank panel into something like Photoshop. When I have the lettering, graphics and layout finished I print the final layout on thick Matt Photo paper.

    This is placed in a Laminator and when finished it's glued to the panel. Control holes are then cut out with a sharp craft blade and the panel assembled. It makes for a very tough, waterproof finish.

    If I don’t laminate I usually do around 5 coats of clear sealer, just depends on what and where it going.

    BTW: I notice some adverts for low cost panel cut-out and art work starting to appear, but for something pretty quick this is hard to beat.
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    Just an FYI on the FE.

    I have recently revised the Graphics, so it looks a bit different to the last pictures posted. It actually looks really elegant in the Vehicle.

    I know my FE looks a bit plain: I have purposely not used animations and text based information overlaid on the screens. This is a car computer and I use it only when I drive. I don’t want tiny buttons or anything I have to look at and read. IMHO, that’s just plain dangerous and also illegal in a lot of places. It’s the same reason why the complete front end can be controlled via hardware buttons and controls. No need to reach for the touch screen which is also illegal to do over here when in control of a vehicle.

    Now for rear seat passengers and kids, show off and bragging rights then anything goes.

    A simple uncluttered layout is also the reason why someone who has never seen this setup can get in the vehicle and drive/use it without any instructions.
    Last edited by Mickz; 10-09-2011 at 11:08 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stretch4x4 View Post
    Gday Mick,
    I apologise as you have probably mentioned it already but there is so much awesome information I couldn't find it.
    What language / libraries or tools are you using to write your front end. I am used to web programming so not really sure what to pick but I think your interface has turned out really well and so would like to borrow some ideas
    Cheers
    No apologise needed, ever!

    Now once again IMHO, but for ease of use and no cost, especially when you want to get a quick Windows APP up and running with a bit of graphics, I still turn to VB.NET.

    I’m using VB.net 2010 at the moment, it’s free and the code you write can be as simple or as complex as you care to make it. In other words some people over complicate things in a lot of cases.

    I don’t use any add in tools or libraries, just what comes with the basic VB.net download from MS.

    BTW: If you decide to go with VB, l would be happy to give any help or code that you want/need to get something started or going fairly quickly.
    Last edited by Mickz; 10-09-2011 at 11:12 PM. Reason: info
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    Haha Cheers, just apologising because there is nothing worse than someone asking a question that has been clearly answered before.
    I had a quick look but couldn't find it in the obvious places.
    Yeah when I get around to starting I will indeed have to contact you. I did actually try to go down that path for another project but learning to simply open a text file took me quite a long time. In the end I have gone back to doing the project in python but with no nice interface.
    So yes if I can get some tips off you and maybe some demos would probably save me many many headaches and a whole pile of time!


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    No problems, it’s seriously easy to get a quick app running.
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