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    Ok well I just put it on my tv and it works flawlessly! So I got it all back on the bench test, and it's a no go. I'm not finding any settings for a tv out, and by not doing anything and setting it up on the actual tv in my bedroom via HDMI, that tells me there isn't one. I even went as far as to take the converter off the DC-DC and re connect the wall outlet for that, and nothing. I'm getting power, but i'm not getting anything out of the video or audio portion of the converter. My guess is that it maybe a bad converter. I am still waiting for a reply from a guy that's working with the same set up and the same converter to see what he says. I don't know folks, I'm frustrated and stumped.

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    Ok guys I have something I just discovered which leads me to a theory. Now try and follow me here!

    I plugged the dock into the wall charger.

    Plugged in the HDMI cable.

    Plugged the HDMI cable into the converter.

    Took the converter off the DC-DC and wired the wall charger back on. Then plugged that in and got the Red led signaling that the converter is on.

    I then checked the Optical output by opening the door, and I have no light which means no signal. I've even plugged the cable in and same thing, no signal.

    So I unplugged the converter from the wall, then just cause, I looked at the LED and it was dimly lit. First I thought it was the sun, then I unplugged the HDMI cable and it went out.

    So not really understanding what I just did, or what happened I did it again. I looked at the LED this time when I plugged in the HDMI cable and got nothing. The LED was out, not dimly lit, nothing.

    Plugged the converter back in, LED lit up, and then unplugged it again. Same thing, the LED was lit dimly and when I unplugged the HDMI cable, it went out.

    This leads me to a theory that I'd like to share and explore with you guys. My theory is this. The HDMI cable needs a power source to make the High Def signal. When the HDMI cable is plugged in, it doesn't have enough power to turn on the converter. But when the converter is powered on, and then subsequently unplugged, there's power in there left over, allowing the power from the HDMI cable to continue powering it minimally. I mean look it ain't much, but it is power. Bottom line is, what this tells me is that there is a signal being sent from the dock itself.

    I think I have a bad converter. I think there's something wrong between the input of the HDMI cable into the converter, and the components that break down the signal and send them to the outputs.

    What do you all think? Again, this dock and cable work on a regular tv with HDMI.

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    Is it the same converted posted on the front page? It says on the description (your link):

    This device converts the HDMI digital video and audio signal into an analog signal for use with VGA monitors or TVs with a VGA input and an insufficient number of HDMI inputs. The audio is also converted to analog audio, with the output sent to a pair of RCA jacks. Only LPCM 2-channel audio is supported.

    The converter will handle input signals up to 1080p and will output the same resolution. However, it will not upscale or downscale the signal, so the monitor must also be capable of handling the same resolution, so the input signal should be set to match the monitor's capabilities. (If the monitor cannot handle the resolution, the display will remain blank.)
    So have you tried hooking up a vga screen to your converter? Maybe it's the VGA to S-Video that's not accepting the resolution that the converter outputs.

    Sorry if you have covered that already.

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    ok, think I remember reading somewhere that the hdmi will not output audio at all until there is communication on the video end of it... maybe try hooking up a vga monitor & see if it works then outputting audio?... if that's the case you may be able to jump 2 terminals on the vga port with a resistor to start the communication.

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    ^^^makes sense, I would try that.

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    Thanks guys. By VGA monitor do you mean like a computer monitor or something like that that just uses a vga input?

    I can always get an audio signal via the 3.5mm jack, not that I want to, but if that's the case then I can do that. I still will need video out to my headrest monitors.

    Maybe it's time to look into some different headrest monitors.

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    Yes, a VGA monitor. Maybe the tv you tested before, if it has a VGA input.

    I wonder if something like this would work for you: a 7" that it's bright, and cheap, with VGA and Composite input:

    http://www.mo-co-so.com/Mini-Touch-7...mcs-mt-700.htm

    However it comes with touchscreen, which you don't really need, but...



    Good luck!

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    No this is the one that I got, regrettably now. Portta PXRC0102

    The one you're talking about I got talked out of real quickly. I ended up originally deciding on this one, the Gefen GTV-HDMI-2-COMPSVID The problem at the time was that it was 300.00 or something like that. I can now find it for 200.00 on amazon, I believe, and I'm almost positive it'll do what I want it to do. The other issue to that was there was no optical output on that, only coaxial digital. So I was going to go with a coax to optical converter (Gefen GTV-DIGAUDT-141) but it was like another 85.00. So I was trying to find an all in one device, like I thought I had in this, and avoid spending almost 400.00 to convert a signal. STUPID SAMSUNG A HOLES!!!

    Although now I'm wondering if this isn't something I should've gotten instead. Portta LXHCS This already converts the HDMI to a composite signal and if I want an optical signal still to the audio portion, I can split the RCA output of it, and go into a converter like the Gefen GTV-AAUD-2-DIGAUD and that would give me my analog signal for set up and my optical signal for main listening.

    So I'm probably going to have to see what I'm going to do. I think you guys are right in that I'm gonna need a vga device to go into rather than a composite one. In that case, providing I stick with what I have, are there any monitors in the 7" or less range that I can put back there that can take such a signal? Or could I go with one monitor in the back, behind the center console instead of the head rests? Something to think about.

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    I think the Monitor I linked to can accept very high resolutions and downscale to what it can display, you'd have to check on that.

    I suspect that those converters HDMI to --> XXX cannot output just pure digital audio, or it would be easy to copy copyrighted files. It has to be linked with analog video, I wonder, to get the HDCP certification.

    If I were you, I would look for screens that could accept HDMI input, before spending $300-$400 on an unreliable converter. Then you'd need only an HDMI splitter and the Tablet would be very happy, and you'd keep more of your hair intact...But then a Lilliput with HDMI input is around $250? Maybe without touchscreen it's cheaper. I would check on ebay.

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    Ya know Rip, Danville huh you're not that far from me, sorry off topic. Anyway, that's not a terrible idea. I could sell both my current monitors, and get either one good monitor that takes vga input or if I can figure out a way to get the vga to split, get two monitors and just replace the monitors I have now. What do you think about that? No I don't need touch screen but the girls don't touch them anyway. So as long as I can turn them on and off via a switch, then I'm fine with that.

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