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    Ohhhhh boy do I have an update for you guys! We are golden and I mean golden with a capital G!!

    I could not wait to get home and try out the new converter, so I did just that. I was able to get off work a little bit early due to having to go run work errands. So after all that I came home and changed and grabbed the tablet and the camera and a positive attitude. Got it all hooked up and it's a go baby!! WOOOOO. Ok so I have some pictures, but I also have a video that explains and shows everything working. I'm very very excited about this and I cannot wait to move forward to phase two!

    New Converter


    Speakers, and Bit One DRC


    Wired up and ready to go.


    "ignition" switch.


    Rca inputs


    Outputs


    Into the amp


    Tablet and dock


    Battery hooked up


    And the video! Apparently I could only get 10minutes, but I had another minute and 23 seconds or something like that. But here you go, it'll explain everything!


    So there it is. All done, working, and ready for a couple HDMI ported head rest monitors. AS SOON AS SOMEONE BUYS THE OTHER ONES! COME ON!!!

    Anyway, this was a huge leap forward and I'm ready for phase two which will be starting on the dash bezel and getting the tablet molded in!

    Oh happy day!

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    I like your pictures, thanks for keeping us updated - I also did watch the video too. Sounds very cool. Very good to know about this converter. (BTW, I ended up picking up that same tablet anyway, for just a bit more money) .

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    Nice, I think if I can get my credit cards paid down, I may get one for my wife for her christmas and birthday present. Christmas December 25th, her birthday January 23rd. Lucky isn't she! Far enough away, and yet close enough together! Anyway, she's loving mine and I'm having to kick her off of it to use it sometimes. I think she'd love one. Although I don't think she needs the 32g, I think the 16 will be just fine for her.

    So I have a little bit of an update to give to you guys. It's not much of an update as it is more a little dilemma. I'll post up what I posted for my audio forum.

    I went to the MECA event in San Jose this weekend and took a look a Bing's installs, Vince's ride and some of his installs, and some other vehicles as well.

    Ok, so being at the show this weekend did a couple of things for me. First, my brain almost exploded with information and build ideas and the like. I'm sure my head was smoking by the time I left there. I couldn't stay long enough to hear any cars, they were all prepping for judging etc. But to look at the installs and the details and stuff that goes into them, I did two things.

    One, I felt as though my thoughts and ideas were right on track with what I've seen out there as far as competition. Second, I came to the realization that I have to figure out a way to incorporate a cd player in the car if I'm going to ever compete. I may not, and I've never said I would one way or another, but if I do decide to compete, I have no CD player in the system design right now.

    So that brings me to my current decision making dilemma.

    Do I put one in, for the "just in case" side of me if I do compete?

    If I do, what do I put in?

    Here are my options.

    Option #1 - I'm trying not to have any head unit in my car at all. I don't want one, which is why I was going to the tablet install. So my first option is going to be to try and figure out if I can do an external cd rom drive outside of the tablet.
    Can it be operated by the tablet?
    Will I be able to operate a USB hub as well as power the tablet through the hub which will be somehow powered by the car charger?
    Can I get around the car charger?
    If I get a powered usb hub, will it have enough power to charge the tablet?
    These are the major questions I have to answer in order for this to work with a cd rom.

    Option #2 - This would be the option I don't want to go with, but if option 1 doesn't work, I'll be forced to go with. I'll have to go with a single din head unit for the cd playing. There are two things here that create some minor problems.

    First - In competition you want the best cleanest sound possible. SO in this case I'd want the digital signal (optical) going here. So, I first would have to find a unit that is capable of carrying that signal.

    Second - If I go with the optical signal here, I'd have the problem of having the optical signal from the converter and the tablet, as well as the optical signal from the head unit. The Bit One only has one optical input. So I could either find a way to split the optical, which I don't even know if that's possible to do which is where the research comes in, or I could simply have the cd player optical unplugged until I would be ready for competition. The tablet would be an everyday thing, and the cd player would be a once in a while thing. So, do I just simply unplug the cd player optical, and then have the tablet optical in all the time, or do I find another way?

    So as you can plainly see, I have some more things to look into. The drives, head unit or cd drive, placement will most likely (95%) be in the glove box. I think it's the best place for it given the area and things on the dash. I've got lots going on there, and if it's only used once in a while, it doesn't need to be out and visible for everyone to see.


    That's about all I've got for now. Back to research and design I guess. So the tablet went from 99% on the design, to about 75%. I'll know more in the next couple of days. Maybe even by the end of the day, but I doubt it. I'm curious to hear input on this stuff.

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    I know nothing about competitions, but you're saying you HAVE to use a CD (not SACD or DVD audio?)? Because you could use a Tascam or Roland digital studio master recorder; maybe you could record that CD or better the digital files directly into those at the highest resolution possible. I'm talking about 192kHz/24-bit, would that be enough?

    To use a car CD head unit + cleanest sound possible sounds like an oxymoron to me, and I know you sound quality guys like to spend, so if you can enlighten me about the rules...LOL.

    BTW if you can use an external CD rom just for the competitions (again I would stay away from headunits too), couldn't you just buy/rent a high end $$$$ audio CD player? Maybe installed in a removable rack in the trunk + dedicated battery and inverter?

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    Perhaps I over-read or missed the goal of this but what was the reason for installing or using a CD player if you have a tablet?
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    To kind of answer, hopefully, both of your questions.....the competitions go like this. The Judges for the competitions have their own cd's they put in. Don't know which one they're going to use at which event. I don't know the rules 100%, guess I should sit down and read them so I can build it correctly, but from what I've seen they put the cd in, and listen to the pre tuned system. They don't do any tuning, or anything like that. Volume and putting in and taking out the cd is about it. Starting the car listening for alt whine if any.

    The purpose for the cd player would be strictly for this use only. Otherwise, yes that defeats the purpose of the tablet in the first place.

    Not all of us like to spend, although it is fun, I'm not trying to spend 1800.00 on something I'm going to use once a month or once every two months. I wouldn't be competing that often, just want to be able to do so if the desire so arose.

    Does that make sense?

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    Yep. I see now. Kinda weird they haven't modified the process to accommodate because how many use CD's anymore? Most people I talk with connect their Ipods or android phones ..but then again they are most likely using headunits that also have CD players.
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    Yes, the CD is a big bummer. They should distribute the sound files in a USB thumb drive, or use Super Audio CD/DVD Audio. But what do I know, I guess it's the tradition, like using a 5K turntable to listen to 1940' jazz records. :-)

    But again, if it's one thing a month only, I would buy a Marantz CD/DVD player and mount it in a rack in the trunk. But maybe there are cool headunits out there I don't know about. Anyway, probably the critical component would be the speakers anyway, as always, so yes, I guess any headunit should be fine.

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    Ok well samsung says that i cannot connect an external cd drive to the tablet cause it won't recognize the drive. But I can put a cd in a pc, and then transfer the cd to the tablet. Make no sense to me but here we are again at the "I'm not really a computer guy" thing. Doesn't make sense to me that you can do one but not the other. So I guess I'm going to be forced into option 2 with the head unit. I have to decide I guess if it's that important to me or not.

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    Ok so here's what I'm thinking. If I do decide to go with a head unit and I do decide to compete, this might be the best way to go about it. Aside of just doing analog, which may be my option and just go with that, I guess I can also have the option of utilizing the digital coax input on the bit one.

    I could use the analog out on the head unit, split it, going to this, then to the bit one with the coax, and then the other analog into the Aux 1. I think that could work. Wouldn't cost a ton of money. I could probably actually use the Alpine CDA-9886 I bought for my truck. But that would eliminate some cost. The converter costs about 85.00. The rest is easy peasy!

    We'll see how I feel about that!
    Last edited by Scott Carver; 09-26-2011 at 06:24 PM.

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