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    for my galaxy tab they make a cable that has audio and video out do they make the same cable for the 10 inch? here is a link http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...RWE63KTP82F36X i figure that and a rca video splitter will do the job for my car but that is just in theory cause i have never tried it.

    update nevermind it says in the reviews that it doesnt work with the 10 inch and also you lose the abilty to charge which sucks for me. back to the drawing board for me too.


    i think im just gonna add the screens for the headrest and setup a dedicated phone like the galaxy s to the back screens that way the kids can watch what they want using that. saves me money and seems rather easy since the galaxy s can do video through the 3.5mm jack!
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    Well its nice to find more people having the same issues I am. Scott, I am trying to do almost exactly what you are. I replied to another thread you posted in then came over here. As far as the USB DAC working. There is no answer on the web that I can find. I actually posted in the forum of one of the DAC manufactures and they basically said give it a try. That is why I was looking at the bitone.

    I have my Thrive in the dash now. Right now I am using the headphone jack on the back of the dock. I am using a 3.5 to RCA (red white cable) and that is going into my head unit. I am planning on using the digital signal of the HDMI out, passing that to the bitone which will go to my HU then out to my Amp. Only problem I see there is that my head unit might degrade the signal. But how else do I handle blue tooth calling? I want the call to come through and the music to drop. Anyway.I am in the same boat.

    One thing I can add is that right now I am using an inverter to power the tablet. I know the issues. I think I can wire it to a DC power supply. But I did not get that far yet. Right now my setup is working as far as audio but I can tell a big difference when connecting my iphone to the Alpine which bypasses the iphone dac compared to the Thrive internal DAC to the aux in.

    Sorry for the rambling. But maybe we can all come up with the best way to handle this.

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    Let me see if I can address these one at a time. Now, keep in mind, I'm not an electronic guru by any means. I've been doing car audio since I was 16 years old, I'm 34 now, and I just learn by common sense and experimenting, oh an a SHATLOAD of research. I research a ton before I do anything. Even this little, well it's not little, project I'm doing here I have definite doubts about. So lets see if I can address your stuff here. I'm sure anyone else can chime in as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by mhermann View Post
    Well its nice to find more people having the same issues I am. Scott, I am trying to do almost exactly what you are. I replied to another thread you posted in then came over here. As far as the USB DAC working. There is no answer on the web that I can find. I actually posted in the forum of one of the DAC manufactures and they basically said give it a try. That is why I was looking at the bitone.
    My thoughts on the usb usage for audio or video, as long as you have the HDMI Port, I'd say stay away from it. You have everything you need in the HDMI port. In my opinion, and that's all this is, the Audison Bit One is by far the best processor out there. You would be amazed at what this thing can do. I'm still learning about it myself, but it's a great piece and worth every penny you're gonna put into it. Now make sure if you do in fact get one of these, you get the latest version of it, or at least the Bit One.1. The previous one's had noise issues and the Bit One.1 fixed those issues, or at least most of them.

    Quote Originally Posted by mhermann View Post
    I have my Thrive in the dash now. Right now I am using the headphone jack on the back of the dock. I am using a 3.5 to RCA (red white cable) and that is going into my head unit. I am planning on using the digital signal of the HDMI out, passing that to the bitone which will go to my HU then out to my Amp. Only problem I see there is that my head unit might degrade the signal. But how else do I handle blue tooth calling? I want the call to come through and the music to drop. Anyway.I am in the same boat.
    First, do you have any pictures of your install? Love to see it if you do. Always interested for future installs or even ideas for this one.

    Well as far as what you're doing with this, from what I can understand and please tell me if I'm wrong, is you're going through the 3.5 mm jack to an RCA adapter. Then running rca's to the head unit now. Right?

    Then you're thinking of going from the HDMI out to a converter for a digital signal to the bit one? Then from the bit one aux to the head unit? Is this only cause of the bluetooth?

    Let's address first things first. I've not heard you say anything about amplifiers. Are you running you sound off of amplifiers or just the head unit? If you're not using amplifiers, you really don't need the Bit One. It's not worth the money. There are plenty of converters out there that can boost a signal for the rca's and use the head unit's DAC for the sound. I'm assuming that's what you're doing now.

    Now if you do have amps, then I'd suggest this. Bypass the head unit. I'm not sure what head unit you have or bloetooth or if you have bluetooth built in, but if you're only using the head unit for bluetooth or cd then don't go through it like you were planning.

    Quote Originally Posted by mhermann View Post
    One thing I can add is that right now I am using an inverter to power the tablet. I know the issues. I think I can wire it to a DC power supply. But I did not get that far yet. Right now my setup is working as far as audio but I can tell a big difference when connecting my iphone to the Alpine which bypasses the iphone dac compared to the Thrive internal DAC to the aux in.

    Sorry for the rambling. But maybe we can all come up with the best way to handle this.
    Ok so let me see if I can explain simply what I would do.

    I'll address it in order, assuming you have only a head unit with bluetooth built in.

    Toshiba Thrive HDMI Out > HDMI Converter (This is the one I'm getting) > RCA R/L > Bit One Pre In CH1 & CH2 for analog set up. HDMI Converter Digital Out > Bit One Digital Input.

    This gives you the analog input for set up on the Bit One as well as the digital input for great sound out of one converter.

    Alpine Head Unit Front L/R Out > Bit One Aux 1 Input. Pretty simple

    This is what you get with this set up having the Thrive on the Pre IN and Digital. You can set it so that on the remote of the Bit One you have the Optical/Digital as the master and that can be the Thrive. On the remote the aux will be the head unit. You can use the head unit for your bluetooth, Radio, CD, and Iphone music.

    Now then, how to operate it. When you want your Thrive playing, you have it on optical. When you get a call, your music isn't gonna stop. I don't think there's anyway to do that unless you can get your bluetooth call through your Thrive. So if you're listening to your Thrive, and you get a call. Hit the remote button, selec aux 1 and answer your call. This will stop your music from playing but won't stop your music unfortunately, and switch it to your head unit which will pass your bluetooth call through the speakers.

    Does all that make sense? If not feel free to ask, I'll try and make it easier to understand some how. I know it's a lot of info.

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    It will be possible if the headunit or whatever Bluetooth system he has can connect to the tablet by BT and use as headset maybe?
    I can think of at least 2 more options for the Bluetooth thing

    1.Audio Out :
    Connect the HU directly to one of the amps ( if you on passive - front / active - mids for example ) , with a rca splitter
    Tablet Awareness :
    If the HU has some kind of mute line , you can trigger one of the tablet buttons - or hack a bt/usb gamepad to lower the volume
    If not , you can maybe make a voltage sensitive circuit connected to the RCA from the HU that will trigger a button

    2.Audio Out & Tablet Awareness :
    Connect the HU to the bit.1 analog input
    If the HU has some kind of mute line , you can trigger one of the tablet buttons - or hack a bt/usb game pad
    If not , you can maybe make a voltage sensitive circuit connected to the RCA from the HU that will trigger a button
    Pause music
    Switch input on the bit.1 using software/hardware

    To figure out the best way I need more info
    Is the Thrive USB-host enabled?
    What kind of Bluetooth system you have? what kind of outputs it has regarding the Bluetooth? Can you pair it with the Thrive? Can you use it as headset?
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    I will do a proper diagram of my system as it currently is to give you guys a better picture. And answer all questions in detail. I will post something tomorrow as I am about to leave for Virgina as I have to be at client in the morning. I live in PA. 3 hour drive which I actually am looking forward to as I just got the tablet installed.

    Anyway, I do have a complete car audio system including several amps. I will detail it out tomorrow so we are all on the same page and post some pics. Thanks in advance for all your help guys.

    But I will leave you with this. If i disregard the blue tooth are you guys ready to ditch AM/FM radio? I was thinking of trying to interface the USB am/fm module on this site with Android, but who knows.

    I will get back to you guys tomorrow.

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    Well I didn't have time to do a diagram. But here is what I have in detail.

    Toshiba Thrive in it's HDMI Doc. The power is connected to an inverter.

    The headphone out is connected to a 3.5 >> RCA cable. The RCA is connected to the Alpine Aux in adapter.

    The alpine is connected to an Audio MatrixThen into my 3 Focal Amps. 1 amp drives my 3 way components. 1 drives my rears, and 1 drives my sub.

    That is what I currently have going. I want to change the following:

    1. Convert to digital audio
    2. Send the video signal from the Thrive to my mirror
    3. Get rid of inverter completely. Can I use a car laptop adaptor for the thrive and the other converter box?
    4.Maybe ditch the head unit. My mirror has hands free so I just have to pause the music manually. However I am worried about relying on my tablet for AM/FM radio.

    That's it for now.

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    1.I already described at this thread the ways to get digital audio , On the Thrive you have both usb-host & hdmi so you can choose whatever you want..
    2.I'm guessing HDMI->Composite converter needed for that , look a couple of posts up
    3.why not a DCDC-USB? it's perfect for these uses
    4.As I said there are possible solutions for the tablet awareness for incoming call

    About the AM/FM radio , I'll be using TuneIn Radio app
    But , I guess that if you wish to get a good am/fm signal with control from the thrive
    you would have to go with one of the quality options for car-pc ( hqct / visteon / directed / ultimate dab )
    and write a driver for android for control..
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    Thanks for the response. I know about the digital out and the converter for composite. I did read the post I was just posting what I had setup and what I wanted to change to be clear.

    The only thing I am concerned with is the AM/FM so I am thinking of going that route and trying to integrate one of those into Android. Never coded for Android, but I do have software development experience.

    Well now to lay out some additional cash. This is getting expensive. How much is a Bitone?

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    One other thing I forgot. I bought Carnetix CNX-P1900 a couple months ago and forgot I had it. I think I can use this to power both devices correct? I believe I saw a youtube video of how to wire it.

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    The Carnetix seems fine , 3A on 5V should be enough
    If you need more you can sell it and go for the DCDC , its rated at 10A

    It shouldn't be hard to port the drivers if there are linux drivers
    The only problem I can see is that the Thrive is really new
    It's seems that even root is not completely achieved
    So the development for the device just started and it won't be easy to handle the device like that
    But it is running Honeycomb , and it should have good built-in usb-host support so maybe it will be easy enough..

    Good luck
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