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    Quote Originally Posted by Rickk View Post

    BTW, in case there is any doubt, I have entered the portion called "winging it".

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    Looks good so far tho.
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    Another day of messing with things.

    Improvising a lot.

    The "adapter" I made raised the mount up 1.5 inches higher than planned. I moved the puter down 1.5 inches to make up for it... sucked... had to drill and tap 4 new holes in 3/16" steel. A lot went wrong, but it will all be OK in the end.


    No wires run yet, that is the next thing on the list, but here is what the mount looks like so far...


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    I was originally going to go with a dash mount monitor but there was much confusion about adapters for the 2014. I changed my mind and now plan on a bigger monitor that will go over the puter rather than go into the dash.


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    I'm not happy about the two most rearward radios. The second one in has some sort of an Art-Deco shape to it, making it look crooked as located. I think it would operationally be better if it was moved to the rear location anyway. The way the factory mounting brackets are made that swap will be difficult, so I will eventually fabricate a custom mount that will hold them both in a swapped configuration.

    More importantly, I need to get power to this location, and some antenna wires.

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    Wow that's a heck of a job you got ahead of you.

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    Well, I have been busy off and on. If I don't get interrupted with some last minute crisis once again I should be able to make good progress by the end of this weekend. I need to post some pictures at some point in time really soon.

    The auxiliary battery is installed, hooked up, and powering some of the radio equipment.

    I need to modify the equipment bracket a bit as I am not quite happy with it. It should be a somewhat simple job. A new modified sub-bracket that will hold the two smaller radios will also have an extra mounting surface on it that will hold an automatic power switch that will turn everything on and off based on engine start and a programmable time after engine stop.

    I ordered a monitor today... a Carnetix 10.4" resistive touchscreen . I haven seen a whole lot of discussion about them so I wasn't sure if I was making the right choice or not. The size is just about right for where I want to put it, which will be in the wooden box (right over the 'puter) that will go over everything that I have installed so far. I already have a 12 volt power supply for the monitor... not quite sure where the power supply will go yet though. With a little luck I will have the monitor by this weekend and be able to get somewhere with that part of the project.
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    Well, my 5 passenger truck right now will only hold one person... there are tools and crap everywhere .

    I had free time on Sunday... started doing lots of stuff. A big problem is that I had amassed lots of stuff over the last year, but was having a hard time finding some of it. I finally decided that I would install whatever I could find rather than what I wanted to but could not find... it will all turn up eventually.


    I got the auxiliary battery in place, wired up and providing power into the center console area.


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    The battery isolator connects the main and auxiliary battery together only when the alternator is making power...



    Then, a power controller applies power to all the toys only when the alternator has brought the auxiliary battery voltage up to proper charge voltage. The whole process from turning the key to "power on" is about 5 seconds. It turns everything of on a time delay after I kill the engine. Right now I have it set for 1 hour. I am not sure exactly yet if I will run the PC off this timer or not... a lot to still think about...



    As I mentioned previously, I wasn't happy about how the two VHF radios sat in the mount. It became a moot point. When I got the 50 watt VHF commercial radio working it took out some T/R diodes in the 2 meter ham radio. I will eventually fix it, but I know it will just blow out again. The commercial radio can also be programmed to work on the two meter ham bands, so I decided that I will use that one radio for both functions.

    Right now the scanner antenna is a piece of wire taped to the inside of the passenger seat. With the freed up 2 meter antenna, my plan is to make a diode limiter and connect the scanner to the now unused 2 meter antenna.




    A significant amount of time was also spend working on some rear of truck lighting upgrades now that the auxiliary battery is in place and there is more power available back in the rear of the truck. I made a lot of progress there but there is a long way to go.


    I have the touch screen monitor that I ordered. I was going to tinker with it this past weekend but I could not figure out where I put the M2 power supply that I ordered about a year ago. It has since materialized and will sit next to the power controller mounted on the freed up bracket on the rear of the center console bracket.

    My plan right now once I get the center console wiring under control is to make a wooden box to fit over everything and hide the mess. There will be an extra sloped thingy in the front of the console to hold the monitor.

    If the weather cooperates, a lot more should happen this weekend... crossing fingers!


    Rick


    added: I said "M2" when I was talking about powering the monitor, but it isn't an "M2" ... it is a 12 volt Dc-Dc regulated converter...

    http://resources.mini-box.com/online...USB-manual.pdf
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    I thought I would make a mention about wire and how to splice it and such. Having designed some stuff for military truck power systems, I learned a think or two. One thing I hate is adding all sorts of stuff and having it start to crap out in a few years...

    Wire - "marine wire" it has each copper strand tin plated. It wont turn all sorts of green in a few weeks like solid copper wire will.

    Splices - strip about 3/4 of an inch of insulation off both pieces of wire. Untwist and spread them out a bit. Stuff the strands of each wire into the other wire, and then twist the strands together as tight as you can. Then, solder the whole affair.

    Shrink tubing - I used double walled "mil spec" shrink tubing. The inner wall is made up of hot melt glue. when you shrink it, it fused together somewhat permanently. If I feel I am asking the shrink tubing to too to much work (irregular solder joint or different sized wire coming together) I will apply some extra hot melt glue to both the solder joint and also the insulation where the tubing will cover. When it gets hot with the heat gun it makes a fairly solid, well protected solder joint.

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    Rickk, nice progress. One comment, I'm not sure if the M2 generates much external noise but you may want to think about an alternate location away from the radios as a back up plan just in case.
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    My plan is to mount the M2 right next to the power controller (see picture above) on the portion of the bracket that was freed up when I removed the Alinco 2 meter ham radio. It should fit there nicely.

    The remaining radio (commercial VHF) is shielded nicely, so I am not expecting an issue from it. The scanner - I will cross my fingers and hope for the best.

    If it becomes a problem, well, I am the EMI go-to guy at the company that I work for... I have my "bag of tricks" (mu-metal tape, copper tape, clamp-on ferrite suppressors). If all else fails I will find another place for it, but it really WANTS to be there ;-).

    I am more worried actually about the computer than anything else as it has multiple clock frequencies in it.

    I should know more in a couple of weeks :-)

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    Well, I made a bit more progress over the last few days...

    I started a wooden "console" to cover everything and hold the touchscreen monitor. It needs a bit more carpentry work to frame out all the stuff that is in it, and then some finish work (was thinking of painting it with spray on truck bed liner ...

    The monitor isn't hooked up yet, but, here is where I left off today...





    Rick

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