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    uSDC20D - I'm not selling it, but you can pick it up either directly from Jeff Mucha, or on mp3car.com store.

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    Since I've moved to RR (which uses WinAmp), it's got me thinking...

    Given: Laptop CarPC uses Audigy card for audio, but also still has built-in laptop audio card (technically two audio cards). Planned use of Parrot CK3100 Bluetooth phone car kit. Using RoadRunner for front end, iGuidance 2.1 for navigation. Windows XP.

    Problem: I want a way to mute music when nav instructions are given, and mute both music and nav when phone call comes in.

    Is it possible to tell WinAmp to use the the built-in audio card, and have iGuidance use the default (Audigy)? If that were true, then would something like this work? This gadget switches the input such that source 1 is active until sound is received from source 2.

    If all of the above is feasible, then music should play (via audio card 1/source 1) until nav instructions are given (via audio card 2/source 2), at which time the gadget would temporarily switch to source 2.

    If all of that works correctly, then I could get another one of those switcher gadgets and have source 1 be whatever line is active from the first gadget, and source 2 would be the Parrot Bluetooth kit, which when active should trump everything else.

    Anybody have any idea is this is possible?

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    Santa brought me a Parrot 3200, so it's going in soon:

    This is a bluetooth carkit that shows a pic of the person calling. I'm using this since my Treo650 doesn't work with PhoneControl. It is also voice command capable.

    One nice thing about this is that it lets you change the color of the screen, so I can make it red/amber like the rest of the dash. I'm thinking it'll go between the steering column and the LCD screen, so I should be able to see it through the steering wheel.

    I ordered the PIE audio input switcher I mentioned above, so will try to make the Parrot work with it so that incoming calls will override the CarPC audio and switch to the Parrot automatically (effectively muting the music when called).


    I also ordered a USB-serial adapter, so that I can try using the USB port for either my IBus steering wheel controller, or the XM radio (only have one serial port, but both devices use serial cables).

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    i always wonderd about the parrot, if u dont have caller id (like not paying for it per month) does it show the callers name anyway?

    how are you going to hook all this up to the speakers?

    very nice install so far!

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    Quote Originally Posted by romul
    i always wonderd about the parrot, if u dont have caller id (like not paying for it per month) does it show the callers name anyway?

    how are you going to hook all this up to the speakers?

    very nice install so far!
    It displays the phone number, just like your cell phone.

    As for the Parrott user, no need to buy or install anything extra. Just wire the Parrott mute wire to a relay, and the so the relay will cut power to your radio, effectively muting everything. The advantage to that is also if you have a tape or cd in the stereo when you get a call, they stop in place. You then use the parrott wiring to feed audio to the cars speakers. The manual is not the best, but if you need some help with that, just let me know, I can help you further.

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    Thanks Wired - I did a rough install of the Parrot yesterday. It had trouble maintaining a bluetooth connection to my Treo650, but I think this is the phone's fault, and am looking into how to upgrade the firmware/software. I did have trouble in that I didn't hear any sound from the speakers. I'm thinking it may be due to the way I have it wired to the PIE audio switcher, so will do some more troubleshooting. Also, I got this note from Parrot support when I asked about the correct way to wire it up (my car doesn't have a car stereo, so I go straight from my laptop to the car amp via SVEN4):

    Since the 3200LS has not been released in the US, I have no information on it. If you have line level inputs however, I believe that the 3200LS does come with line level wires (probably thin brown and green wires). However, if you install the car kit using those lines, you will also need a mute line in your head unit in order to get automatic muting. I believe the 3200LS also comes with a mute line (probably a yellow bullet-tipped mute wire). If you install the kit using the line levels, the only difference would be that the volume of the call would be adjusted through your radio's volume control instead of the car kits volume control. If you have any other questions or problems, please let me know.
    I think this means that I need to chop up the ISO audio harness that comes with it and use those wires for audio rather than the individual non-harnessed wires for audio, if I want the 3200 to be able to control the volume (pretty important since there's nothing else to control it).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hark
    Thanks Wired - I did a rough install of the Parrot yesterday. It had trouble maintaining a bluetooth connection to my Treo650, but I think this is the phone's fault, and am looking into how to upgrade the firmware/software. I did have trouble in that I didn't hear any sound from the speakers. I'm thinking it may be due to the way I have it wired to the PIE audio switcher, so will do some more troubleshooting. Also, I got this note from Parrot support when I asked about the correct way to wire it up (my car doesn't have a car stereo, so I go straight from my laptop to the car amp via SVEN4):

    I think this means that I need to chop up the ISO audio harness that comes with it and use those wires for audio rather than the individual non-harnessed wires for audio, if I want the 3200 to be able to control the volume (pretty important since there's nothing else to control it).
    My Pleasure.

    The install I did was a little unique but perhaps it will work for you.

    The car I installed into is a Lexus RX330, with navigation. When the navi talks, it comes out the speakers on the front right of the car. I easilt located those speakers, and the advantage was that they were in the top of the dash, on the left, where the glass meets the dash. I removed the grill, and the speaker and located the wires. I then cut the wires, and connected some quality speaker wire to lengthen the cars speaker wires to about 10 feet, which I admit was overkill, but I didn't want to have any problems. I then verified that everything still worked, car stereo and navi sound coming out of the speaker. I also knew that I was after the amp, which is important with the Parrott unit I had (3100).

    I than ran the wires through the dash to where I intended to mount the body of the 3100. I then hacked the "Mute Cable" by cutting the two same wires from just before the connectors. The mute cable actually has a relay of sorts, that when energized, cuts the speakers connection (the mute cable is inserted between the radio and the speakers using the ISO connectors) and feeds Parrott sound directly to the speaker, and when not energized, allows the radio sound to pass through to the speakers. I then cut the speaker wire I previously connected to the cars speaker, and attached the those wires to the appropriate wires of the "mute cable". It worked perfectly, and will probably work for you as well. The only thing is that the "mute cable" must be installed AFTER the amp. If your amp is easily accessible, it might be easier to make the connection there.

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    Thanks, this is very helpful. Just to confirm - are you saying that the audio cables coming from the Parrot should also go after the amp? It has enough juice to be loud enough over the speakers without an amp?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hark
    Thanks, this is very helpful. Just to confirm - are you saying that the audio cables coming from the Parrot should also go after the amp? It has enough juice to be loud enough over the speakers without an amp?

    Yes, the MUTE cable is enough to power the speakers, and must be installed AFTER the amp. There was/is (on the 3100, I am not sure about your model though) a "low power" pair of wires, but I didn't end up using them. You can then use the "mute wire" to flip a relay that will cut power to your amp, and that will muts the music from your computer/stereo (since you don't have a HU) Also, you may not want to use the mute wire, because the mute cable will stop the music from going tot he speaker (if installed like I suggested) and will pass the parrott audio similar to a navigation system that still lets you listen to music, but cuts the music to one speaker, and pipes in the navigation audio. That is choice. It can also be setup with a switch, to choose when to completely mute the stereo or not. All just a matter of how much time and energy you have.

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    More responses from Parrot - they confirm that their kit should be installed after the amp. Here's a wiring diagram they sent me:

    It seems as though they want the speaker wires after the amp to be plugged into the input side of the Parrot box, and then inside they have relays to switch the audio over to the phone audio - but only for the front speakers. I'll have to look into getting a relay that will be triggered by the mute line coming out of the Parrot that cuts the speaker line output from the amp before the Parrot. Does this sound correct? Is there a specific type of relay I should be looking for, at RadioShack or something?

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