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    Well, did a little cleanup & Boot Reduction Therapy today.
    Turned off a bunch of stuff in the BIOS that I don't need, and set it to manual (instead of auto-detect), and that went pretty well. POST is pretty quick.
    Windows. Oh man...
    Bootvis report 25 seconds. The only reason I post it here is see if I can better my score.

    I know that the network drivers are taking awhile, but I am loath to remove those right now.
    I know the video driver takes awhile, so I may get rid of it & use the windows driver.
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    I really appreciate how you keep jotting down notes in this thread. It helps me so much because I can easily follow the process of adding a carputer since I'm a complete noob.

    By the way, have you heard of a free program called AutoRuns?

    http://www.sysinternals.com/

    It compiles a huge list of things started up when Windows boots. It will list your startup folder, msconfig.exe entries and scans your entire registry. It's a wonderful program and I think it may help you a lot. Also, maybe you wanna change your shell to something else besides explorer.exe.

    Keep up the great work, this thread is extremely helpful.

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    Thanks! I was hoping someone would benefit from all this rambling other than my own ego.
    I'm very thankful for mp3car.com for making this space availble, and that someday it will help. Looks like it's starting.

    I'll give your link a whirl, as I'm a little fuzzy on all what's going on when windows starts. Thanks!

    Well, update for today...
    I'm slowly getting things together, and a couple of things are starting, and a couple merging. Pretty exciting actually.
    I loaded Roadrunner (FE of choice) and will start to use one of the stock skins to see how it integrates & acts. This was why I stopped development of my own skin...I couldn't understand how it all worked because it wasn't running on anything other than virtually. I can load MP3s, and then I can start making screens for the Music portion.

    As for new...This weekend I plan on seeing if I can get XM integrated. I'll make my cable, jack it into the Commander, and see if there's any love. If so I can start skinning XM, and finalizing that portion of the hardware. I'm plugging directly into the serial header of the mobo, and using a telephone jack as an external plug (instead of a bulky-*** DB9) since I only need 3 wires to control the Commander. We'll see if I screw myself with lack of sheilding. If so, I'll just find another sheilded 3 conductor wire (which I think I have). Come to think of it, why don't I just use that? Duh. See, it's good to talk things out.

    Something else I've been procrastinating is where & how to put the control switches/LEDs. I have 2 LEDs (power & HDD) & 2 switches (power & reset). Technically, I won't need these switches except when I'm working on it. This suggests I can put them inside. Then I have to make a fancy bracket, which I'm dreading. Oh well.
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    Red face

    Report for today. It was a good weekend.

    One thing plauging me was getting my XM connected. I went to try it last week hoping for the whole magical instant success thing. Right. Didn't happen. I tried some odd concoction of cables involving telephone connectors. I didn't realize how hard it was to use non-telephone wire with telephone equipment. Like jacks. It sucked. So I went with different connectors (molex from the Shack). They suck too, but are more reliable. I consider it a temporary marriage at best. Eventually I will make a nicer, multi-connection docking-type concoction.
    Anyway, I learned how to test a serial port. Through the marvel that is I learned that you can short pins 2 & 3 (send & receive), and fire up hyperterminal. Make a new connection for COM2 (I'm using the header on the Epia board) and use all default settings except for Flow control = None (default is "Hardware"). More here.
    I have yet to test it, but I am pretty confident it'll work.

    On other fronts, I got iGuidance installed. It's the bom-diggity-omb!
    Ooooo, I can't wait to get a GPS receiver going. As it is now, I could use it, just follow the directions & route it gives.
    But that's no fun, besides, it's not itegrated into RR. So the next steps are to optimize it by going through the 28 page iGuidance thread.

    I've been putting off doing the skin, but I think it sounds like I need to start. I have MP3s up & running, IG going, and possibly XM.

    Also, I mounted the switches & LEDs inside the box & made a notch for the power harness. The switches I mounted ghetto-style by double-taping them to the wall of the case. Temporary at best, but it works. Eventually I'll make something a little nicer, maybe molded foam to seat them all in.

    It's weird the way I work. It may not be the most effiecient, but it's how I do best. I jury-rig it so it works. Then, once it starts to annoy me how crappy it looks, I improve it. So the whole theory is that I want to get a working install, and then improve upon it. So nothing is really the way I want it (except how I mounted the mobo & HDD).

    All in all, a good day.
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    Specs: Opus120; Epia M10k; 700IDT; GlobalSat BR-355; iGuidance 2.1 & IGMod; XM; Custom case.
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    First post from the car!!!!

    Well, I'm happy to report another most excellent week on the progress front.
    I dragged the CRT out to the car & hooked everything up.

    It all worked...again.
    That's incredible. The main purpose was to see if the XM cable I repaired would work. It did. It took awhile to get it there, but just some setting changes. I could play MP3s & heard them through the car speakers. That was one bit of progress, I know I can generate sound properly.
    XM was okay too. I got it hooked up & nothing. Ok, don't panic. I remembered I was on Com2 (internal mobo header), so I changed the setting in the config program to reflect that. Then I got all the data & channels, so I knew that my cable repair was shiny. But no sound. After poking around I determined my "Line-in" was muted.

    Sweet!

    So, like the subject says, I'm sitting here in the car while I'm doing this. I have a USB wireless device I'm using. Small note of interest, Wireless frequencies make the radar detector go bonkers detecting "L" band. I've never seen "L" band go off before. I guess that's okay, cause when I'm parked in the driveway of my house, I'm not on the lookout for smokeys.

    Now, while it is all working, it is far from complete. As you can see from the pics, I have a little optimization to do. BUT, this rig is good to go. It's powered from my inverter I installed 3 yrs ago (I knew it would come in handy!). But Mrs. Viscouse might take issue with having a 20lb CRT on her lap.

    The 2 missing peices I need to get will clear all this up: Opus & Zenarc.

    Well, now that I know all the hardware works, time to get cranking on the skin.

    I'm so happy. Today was my "it actually works" point. I think it'll all be downhill from here.
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    Enjoying v1.0 since it's operational. Aaaawww yeah.
    Specs: Opus120; Epia M10k; 700IDT; GlobalSat BR-355; iGuidance 2.1 & IGMod; XM; Custom case.
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    Since I can't easily find threads I need to refer to, this post will be bookmarks.

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    Well, things are moving slow. Ordered my Opus 120W from mp3car.com (my little gesture of support for this great site!), so next post will be about that. For now, I removed my CD player in prep for the monitor, which I probably won't have for another 2 months. Here is a thread on Saabcentral.com about it. No sense duplicating it here.

    I've also been procrastinating doing the wiring. I think once the Opus is in the box I'll feel better about final placement of the box (under pass seat or trunk, or other).

    I also need to find a long serial cable somewhere to run the GPS signal from the trunk to the interior, hidden of course. I hope my jammed runnerboards can cope with a thick serial cable.

    I made a crude wiring sketch.

    I also made a name for it: The Advanced Driver Interface, or ADrI for short (pronounced ad-ree).
    That's cause I needed soemthing for my bootscreen.
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    Specs: Opus120; Epia M10k; 700IDT; GlobalSat BR-355; iGuidance 2.1 & IGMod; XM; Custom case.
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    Thumbs up It's alive!!! (at least on the operating table in the lab anyway)

    I'm so happy today, another win for the Success camp!

    Somehow I looked back on it & I worked on it from 5pm to 11pm, so that kinda sucked, but I did other stuff in there (pee, ate dinner, fed the dog, etc).

    My goal was to hook up the Opus 120 & get it powered with the ATX power supply I've been using. So I can just pull it out of the car, and plug it up inside the house to work on it without pulling cables out of the mobo & reconfiguing bios settings, etc. So here's what I did in case anyone wants to replicate it. I'll try to explain it without pictures, but if anyone want pics, let me know.

    The Opus comes with a 20-pin ATX output (that mates with the mobo), and a 6-pin input. The 6 wires are:
    a. vehicle unswitched (always on) 12V+, yellow
    b. vehicle unswitched (always on) 12V+, yellow
    c. vehicle switched (ignition switched) 12V+, red
    d. vehicle ground, black
    e. vehicle ground, black
    f. Remote turn on, blue (unused for me right now)

    You can find info regarding how the ignition wire works here.

    So, I got a 4-pin molex connector (a+b) are to be shorted together, as well as (d+e) per Opus. See this thread. This leaves 4 circuits. I put this 4-pin connector at the end of the supplied 6-wire harness. This makes up Cable 1: Universal Pigtail.
    6-pin -> 4 pin

    Now I wanted a cable that will connect to the ATX power source, and then to the new 4-pin connector. So I got a 20-pin connector (the kind on the mobo, Molex P/N 39-01-2201 , & pins P/N 39-00-0082), and a mating 4-pin. 20-pin wired thusly:
    Pin 14 & 15 simply shorted together. This shorts the green & black wires together to enable the ATX PSU to power up without having to be connected to the mobo.
    Pin 3: Or any other black wire actually, that's ground, and mates with (d+e).
    Pin 10: 12V+, and mates with (a+b).
    Now, about the ignition wire. You have to make a switch to make the Opus think a circuit was completed between IGN & 12V+. So what I did was mate (c) with (a+b), putting a pause-style switch (or any computer power-on switch) in the middle. This make Cable 2: ATX Adapter

    Hot damn it worked. Some of the things that helped that made this take forever was figuiring out the ignition wire behaviour (simple once I figuired it out. Sometime I'm such a dumbass), and correct polarity of the on/off switch cable that goes from Opus to mobo. Also the LED blinks on the PSU helped a lot too. I could tell when it was in standby (getting proper power but not "turned on") not getting enough juice (I switched the jumper to the lowest voltage), and wired wrong (on/off polarity backward). Without those it would have taken much, much longer.

    So now, the hardware portion's pretty much done. I have a box I can remove from the car by unplugging things, and bring inside & hookup. Now I have to run power cables in the car (terminating in a matching 4-pin connector), finalize location, and wait for the scratch to pickup the LCD. I have to neaten things up, and may have to flip the opus around, but hot damn, it works!!!

    EDIT: One more thing. Something I was always a little unlear & concerned about is whether or not the PSU would turn off USB devices. It does.
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    Specs: Opus120; Epia M10k; 700IDT; GlobalSat BR-355; iGuidance 2.1 & IGMod; XM; Custom case.
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    I decided how I'm going to power the Zenarc. I'm going to run 3 wires from the Opus (using the 12V 4-pin connectors & the Opus remote turnon) and run them to the monitor. Have to run signal cables as well, so I might as well do it all at once.

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    Just thought I'd put a quick update in. I little bit of progress.
    I thought I'd try to finalize installation due to my success last time. How's that saying go? One step forward, 2 steps back?
    The original plan was to fit the box under the pasenger seat. After an extensive Fit Trial, it failed. There are a couple of positions that the seat goes in where the motor pack collides with the box, and compresses it. I don't want to squash the box.

    So into the trunk. I did an informal trial where I kep it in the trunk, running by itself for 1.5 hrs, anfd the temp didn't go up appreciably. So even thought he air is in a closed system, it doesn't continually heat itself without getting cooled by the outside. I realize the test might be biased since it was 50 degrees outside, but I need to get this installed, and that's my best prospect right now. So now I'm in the process of carving out my tool caddy to fit the box.

    I also got some more infor about the serial GPS unit & the XM install. I almost drove off in order to test the GPS, and realized I was tethered to the house byt he damn extension cord. Whoops. That motivated me to get power intot he car, so I ran my power wires from the battery to the trunk. I didn't connect them yet, but that should be an easy matter.

    In summary, lots of little peices came, but nothing complete yet. My goal is have this finished & operational (without an extension cord tethered to the house) by 12/31/05. Let's see if I can beat that.
    You know you want to...Worklog
    Enjoying v1.0 since it's operational. Aaaawww yeah.
    Specs: Opus120; Epia M10k; 700IDT; GlobalSat BR-355; iGuidance 2.1 & IGMod; XM; Custom case.
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