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    Well, if you've seen my F-body thread you'll know I can come up with some crazy ideas.

    First, do you have an overall theme in mind? My guess is your going for a clean, unclutterd, almost sterile look. You want symetry, but without going overboard.

    My first thought would be to not have that case made. Why not order an amplifier case from Phaze Audio and place your x-over under it? Then you would have what appears to be 3 amps that would all match. It looks like it would fit, but it may be close.

    Definetely show the whole amp, not just the tops. I would also suggest beveling the rack around the amp edges. Having it be flat on top and then just drop 90* down just doesn't seem to flow. You could do a 45* bevel or if space is a limitation a simple roundover bevel. Just something to break up the hard lines.

    (I'll remove this pic later if you want, just let me know)
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    you read my mind, the theme is pretty much what you had stated. i want clean and classy.

    Unfortinately phaze isn't in business anymore, these amps were actually made by bk butler, but he only fixes these now...he won't be able to get another amp shroud (if you look at my original install you can see i went that route before)

    The new design won't cover up the whole amp (maybe that was a missunderstanding) the whole amp will be exposed, but the tops are goign to rise above the floor. it's hard to visualize but it actually looks good to me in my mock up. I do like your smoked plexi/lights idea. i had originally thought about adding some lights to accent the amps, so i think you may have nailed it. and i'm definately going to take your suggestion about routing the edges with a nice 1/4 round.

    It's hard to see it, but the walls in the pic above are at about a 60 degree angle; but yeah, you have it right going with a nice bevel. it'll make the whole piece look sturdier too. the top piece is 1/8" hardboard, i bet with a nice piece of 1/2 under it and routed will give the impression of a beefier install w/o the added weight.

    tthanks for the good ideas
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    See, I thought they weren't in business. I was thinking maybe they were since you got 2 identical ones.

    I was thinking of getting one of those amps myself just for the cool factor. I've heard they sound great as well.

    Well, if you have the money, you could buy a 3rd amp and then use the shroud and save the internals as a spare.

    I know you said you wanted to expose the whole amp, I was just agreeing with you. That is the way to go.

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    it's hidden :-) originally it was going to go in that empty space; between the amps and below the x-over, with a fan over it. that is no longer possible because the height of the false floor wont allow a stealth installation. I did however find out that it will fit in one of the 3 storage compartments that i have in the back (there is one big one in the rear center section; that'll be for the sub, then two smaller ones on each side) the other storage compartment will house the dac and motherboard. Each one of these compartments will have a cooling fan built into them to avoid overheating.

    I do want to take the time to thank you for your valuable input, it's helping me hash out some of the design.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scott_fx View Post
    I do want to take the time to thank you for your valuable input, it's helping me hash out some of the design.
    Hey, that was like 5 minutes thought. I've been working on mine for like 6 months. That's just thinking of ideas and stuff and letting it evolve. Right now I'm up to a building a massive 13"x46" Rockford Amp to deliver 1200Wx2 to my subs with a stained wood front. Then a pair of 13" conga shells (Oak) for the subs to mount in also with a matching stained wood finish. Even a matching wood steering wheel. It's crazy.

    OK, back to you. The top is pretty limiting, well the whole car is actually, as it's pretty small. Are the tube amps fan cooled? Is the top going to interferre with the cooling?

    If getting a 3rd amp isn't feasable then having something custom made looks like the way to go. I don't know about that x-over design as it seems overly simplistic. Do you think someone could take some sheetmetal and roll it to match the shape of the amp covers? That's mainly what you need. Even without the tiny holes, just the shape and some silkscreening that matches the amps in some close way should look nice.

    I see 2 ways to go. Make the cover exactly the same size and use a copy of the silkscreening.

    Or to make the cover noticable different with it own unique lettering. It could be inspired by the amp cover. Such as a rectangular shape, but with a shorter top hump that simply evokes the thought and spirit on the amp covers.

    You could even make the custom cover more square shaped to better fit the x-over.

    Either way, definetely have the finish color match. Is that possible? What finish do the amps have?
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    A simpler thought, what about moving the x-over to the FRONT edge of the amps and rotating it 180* so the wires come out toward the front of the car. Then take the cover off and rotate it 180* so the lettering is still facing the right direction?

    At the moment, it looks really tucked under the car and is hard to see.

    EDIT : SORRY, I WROTE THE WRONG THING ABOVE, BUT FIXED IT. I MEANT MOVE THE X-OVER TO THE REAR OF THE CAR EVEN WITH THE AMPS.
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    one problem, the side (180 degrees from what you're seeing) has the inputs on it. so that wouldn't gain me much the picture is decieving because i dont have the rear xlr's hooked up. it does seem kinda tucked but i think it's more of the angle of the camera and the lens that makes it look flattened (no depth of field) and tucked.

    oh.. as far as your question on the top inhibiting cooling, the top doesn't completely cover the amp, just the lowest point of the top; one of the reinforcement bars, limits the height so cooling shouldn't be affected much if at all.

    i need to get a 50mm lens so it is more in tune with our eye's natural lens, the new design looks less congested though
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    I do need to look into your equipment more.

    It seems they are still making some amps for car use, but they have changed the design.
    http://www.butleraudio.com/tdb2150.php

    Have you asked if they could sell you a top cover from one of their new amps? If looks very similar. If the color is the same, bonus!

    You could make a new side piece to control the height as you won't have those finned parts.

    I do think the 3 (almost) identical looking covers would be very clean looking.
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    Hey Scott, when you were looking for attenuators did you ever run across any that would be good for just controlling the sub level? That's what I'm looking for. I really didn't want to use a pot as it may color the sound, get dirty, etc... The best I found was this:
    http://mysite.verizon.net/vze4c5pt/id2.html

    It is basically a high end switch with high end metal film resistors hand soldered. I figure a 24 step with 1dB per step should work well for a subwoofer control. I only need a mono device.

    Any thoughts on this one or have you seen anything better? Would the Joshua Tree stepped attenuator work well for this application?
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    I was thinking, looking at the design of the amps, it would look pretty cool if you had some frosted plexiglass covers made. Not to cover the whole thing, but with a cut out in the center for that middle portion to poke through. Maybe frosted... Think like an iceberg. I may just be nuts

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